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Listen to Red Elvis, a Curiosity Audio Network podcast on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Daniel Miller is a millennial con artist. I'm a social media influencer. Busted while recovering from Brazilian butt lift surgery. She was yelling at the police for like getting her butt tissue out of joy when they were hand-gaming her. She's got hundreds of victims. To me that's not a con artist that just is a straight-up predator. And she just keeps getting away with it. This person is the danger. Listen to Queen of the Con, season three on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, I mean Cody, I agree entirely. It's like the world we live in we've come to realize is corigning towards disaster. And we have very little say in actually arresting that disaster and the elites that have brought us here have entrenched their power so deeply that people can't even conceive of a world without a boot on their neck. And so we all just kind of grasp for the artifacts of our childhood for those last moments before we realized how deep the problems were. And that's got us all stuck in this kind of endless cycle of worshiping the dead remnants of our youth. Anyway, how are you doing today? Oh, aside from that, all that stuff. It couldn't be, well, it could be better, but you know, I'm doing all right. Have you enjoyed Andor? I've enjoyed the few that I've been able to sit down and watch. It's good. It's good. I, A plus, well, so far. A, A so far. A plus I hear. I think I've watched through all of it and it's quite good. Yeah. Everything about it is correct in terms of what should be done with the franchise. It's this, it's this thing I've been saying where like the reason the first Star Wars movies were great is that George Lucas, everyone around him, including his, his ex-wife, who was the editor on those three movies and one of oscar's and stuff, great film editor, where like George has consistently 20% of a great idea. And if you can cut the other 80% out of it and replace it with like something vaguely reasonable and not unhinged, then you get pretty darn good movies. And then for the prequels, he just got let off the leash and there was a lot of nonsense. And Andor seems to have taken that like core of stuff that was cool about the prequels. And anyway, this is behind the bastards. Yeah. Also just like cohesive vision. Yeah. Which I think obviously the sequels didn't have. No, no, no. Not good in my opinion. Yeah, no. One of the only, I think, positives of the prequels is that like at least the vision was cohesive. Like they all like look the same. They felt like a thing. Yeah. Exactly. So that's, I think a positive for Andor, but also just like it's, it's just written well. It's written extremely well. It's written extremely well. Writers are doing a good job writing like scenes and lines and their scenes and at least in the first few that I've watched were up in like that didn't have to be in the star wars universe. Like that was just a scene. No. That was a good scene between two people who happened to like have like, you know, laser guns on their hips. Yeah. They've done a really good job of like, there's a lot of evil in the show, but a majority of the actors are self-interested, but not actively malicious, even when they're contributing to terribly malicious systems, which is a, a shows a nuanced understanding of how evil actually occurs most often in the real world that I appreciate. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of just consideration and thought that seems to have gone into it. Yeah. Not a whole lot of the Boba Fets of the world. I think have. Boba's feet. I've done. Yeah. The Boba, the Boba Fets didn't quite nail it. Well, I haven't seen a second of that shows. I actually think they're all, they're all perfectly fun. As long as it's got fucking Pedro Pascal and I'll keep watching. Oh, yeah. For sure. By the way. This is behind the bastards. A podcast about bad people. We are taking another easy week by going through episode two, season one of dragons, monsters, and men, the Jordan Peterson series in which he sits in a comfortable chair and just kind of talks. Like I don't look. When people say he seems like he's off his meds, that that often can be an offensive statement, but he does seem like he's off his meds. Or like on the wrong meds or on the wrong meds or hasn't been medicated for the right thing. Either way, whatever is going on with Jordan Peterson's drug use, it's not right. Yeah. Fix your drug use, Jordan. So episode two after our Game of Thrones-esque opening. For God of the- Oh, yeah. So if he wants you to play us a clip in that example, like sure. Let's go. Let's just remind everybody. Oh my God. Oh, if I like I blocked his hours. I know. This is what they spent almost as much money on as fucking Jordan Peterson and Sel. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. This I should be clicking continue and then like hitting a windigo with an axe. But yeah, episode two opens with the title card, Arm Yourself, on a red background. And then we're back to Jordan with his like hands together looking at his fingers, just kind of like awkwardly and chit. It's such a funny transition. It's so not so funny. It's like just sudden. It's like I can't even say they didn't do it on purpose. No. No, how funny it was, but also they didn't. There have to be a few people at the daily wire who like know it's bullshit and know how stupid and silly all this is, but are just like, I gotta get, you know, it's paycheck. Why is that so much? And I just I don't care. I don't, maybe tweak it a little, make it funny. I don't care if he's a furniture behind him. There is a chair behind him with like, I mean, I would love to have a library like this. I think that that, uh, it's very nice looking. There's more chairs back here. I think I count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. A couch. It looks like an ideal salon, like intellectual workplace where it's like kind of there's a little bit almost of like an industrial vibe. You can see like bricks in the background. Like maybe it was like a storage or like a hanger or a big garage, but they've, they've put in a bunch of nice bookshelves and nice furniture and wood paneling. There's like maybe a little bar table in the back left corner where Jordan Peterson can have a single sip of cider and then that's sleep with 30 days. And not too bad. Yeah. But there's like legitimately like at least 10 chairs visible in this. Well, you have that Jordan Peterson has a lot of people over to discuss his ideas like that your evil uncle is never to be argued with even when he's the Catholic church and molesting children. Anyway, whatever. It's a, it's like an honor of like, you know, the fallen philosophers of, yeah, old, like, you know, and then he's a chair behind him. The manual Kant over there in the corner with that like one wiring uncomfortable looking one fucking, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of empty chairs at empty tables. Yeah. High digger probably in that like back corner next to all the cleaning bottles that looks like. Anyway. So once the episode opens, Peterson immediately starts talking about how men are becoming whosys. Men becoming more passive. Yes. There's that in some sense they are they're becoming more passive in that they're bailing out of society. They boys don't as well in school pretty much from day one. They're less likely to enroll in university. They're more likely to drop out. They're less likely to graduate. They're withdrawing. And there is evidence that I think is quite compelling. This is most advanced in Japan and South Korea, which are very low birth rates that men, young men, are even bailing out of the sexual game, even if it's solitary. There's some indication that young men aren't even masturbating as much as they used to. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Wait a second. Wait a second. I thought that. Yes. It was like in this crowd it was good to not masturbate. I thought like. Yeah. It's, he's inconsistent about that. I think he's, he'll bring, yeah. I don't actually know if, because Jordan Peterson, I don't think is like hard into the no-fap stuff, but he's also pretty hard into the in-sale stuff, which is related to no-fap. And like he's very, you know, anti like, I mean, you don't have to look at pornography to masturbate, but I know he's very anti-pornography. So like, he's like, yeah. I mean, he, I mean, he the jerket more like what's going on here. I have to point out so that he brings up a bunch of claims here, like that men are, are going, graduating high school and college less, right? Now, as, as, as, this is, he is less wrong than he normally is in this statement. But also as with everything he says, he's still wrong. There's an Atlantic article that I found in literally like six seconds. It notes quote, education experts and historians aren't remotely surprised. Women in the United States have earned more bachelor's degrees than men every year since the mid 1980s. Every year, in other words, that I've been alive and that both of us have been alive. This particular gender gap hasn't been breaking news for about 40 years, but the imbalance reveals a genuine shift in how men participate in education, the economy and society. So number one, this has been going on for decades. This is not a recent thing. This is about half a century. But also currently right now, men are going enrolling in college and finishing college more than they were a decade ago. Yeah. In 1970, men accounted for 57% of college and grad, college and university students. So it's like, you know, it's complicated. Yeah, there's like a number of theories as to why, but this has been going on for a long time. A lot of it has to do with the fact that many of the jobs that men seek don't require a college degree like trade jobs. Another has to do with the fact that women are increasingly seeking education because like it's gotten a lot easier for them to do so in the last half a century. Some of it has to do with the fact that men are much more likely to be incarcerated than women. Like it's, there's a bunch of theoretical reasons for it. But it's also not an entirely like linear process. Like it's not just that men have been dipping and in fact over the last decade, there's been some rises and men at least attending college. So again, Jordan Peterson takes like his take is taking like what is an actual half century long tradition boiling out all of the actual facts around it and claiming it's something that's very recently happening. And that's not actually the way things are going. Also Peterson specifically has a whole lot of problems with just like academia and universities in general. And most people at the daily wire, like most prominent figures at the daily wire tell you to not go to college. Yes. Like that is a big movement in that entire crowd now is like don't go to college and if you do pretend like you're learning something and lies, you get the degree. Like they support not going. So what's going on there? Yeah. Yeah. It's and it's like I'm not ever going to tell people to go to college because I also think it's a gigantic grift. Oh, sure. It's just anyway. Oh, sure. Yeah. But Jordan is, let's say, he is partially right in that there is a long term trend of men declining in higher education, but also largely wrong because he ignores all of the different reasons and the length of time at which that's been occurring, right? To make it look like it's the call. It's been called the woke world. It's a place of deal. It's a place of deal. Well, number one men have a lot of jobs that don't require college degrees. Men are imprisoned at a lot higher rate. Women have suddenly gotten a lot more freedom and have been going to college in an attempt to like shore up and get equal weight or to get anything that even approaches an equal wage. They have to get more of an education than men do. Like there's a whole bunch of reasons for it. And also the fact, and I feel like this is left out of that Atlantic article that increasingly people are realizing that a lot of higher education is a gigantic con. Anyway, let's agree with. Yeah. Yeah. So, we can also talk about masturbation. So unlike birth rates, masturbation, like knowing how often people masturbate, is dependent upon self-reporting, right? Birth rates are objective. You can know the amount of babies that people are having is raising or lowering, right? That's something that it's very easy to get data on because as a general rule, the government is informed when a baby is. Yeah. Definitely easier to determine. And when people are doing a solo activity in the privacy control. Yeah. In order to know the rate at which people are masturbating, you would have to build like a perfect digital panopticon to keep track of everyone's come, a panopticon, if you will. Oh, perfect. Absolutely. Which I do support creating, but that's a separate episode. Yeah. That's nice. You and I will do that in the future. So yeah, I found one survey of 1,040 Americans on masturbation habits published by Dr. Evan Goldstein of bespoke surgical. The language he uses certainly doesn't make it seem as if his evidence suggests that masturbation is less common today. Here's how his little article opens. According to Thomas Lacker's 2003 book, Solitary Sex, a cultural history of masturbation, masturbation is we know it was invented in 1713. By that he meant that while masturbation was, he may have always existed, may probably doesn't belong in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's only in the early 18th century that the phenomenon was named a new disease, creating a quote, nearly universal engine for generating guilt, shame and anxiety. And I do think that is a worthwhile point that like people have always masturbated, but the, the modern concept of masturbation was developed as a clinical term to shame people from masturbating, right? Now bespoke surgical is some sort of like medical clinic run for profit. And I question their data as I always do when a for profit clinic releases a survey. Once said what they're claiming their survey shows doesn't seem particularly weird, quote, we wanted to know how often Americans masturbate. Overall the answer is about 12 times a month on average. This number is consistent when considering just heterosexual people, but was slightly higher for homosexual respondents who reported masturbating 14.2 times per month. And I might suggest that like rather than there actually being a gap between straight people and queer people in masturbation, queer people are just like more honest about their own. Yeah. I also suspect everybody might be underestimating the amount of, although that's like 14 times isn't like weird. That's a reasonable. Yeah, that's a reasonable. I would say that seems like a pretty reasonable average. Obviously, people are going to have more, people are going to have less, but yeah, that's that's, that doesn't, that, that data does not like set off alarm bells in my head. Yeah, not shocked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Too low. So that obviously does not give us any longitudinal data. Like it doesn't, like Peterson is saying that min or masturbating less, right? As sort of evidence that like min are in decline. And obviously that data does not show whether or not that's happening at all. I did find a study by Tenga Company, which is a sexual health and wellness business that makes sex toys. So again, not again, you're never going to find a good study on this. That's like done by a perfect, yeah. I get until our startup gets off the ground until the penoptic come is created. Yes. Exactly. They did what their press release calls the quote, world's largest masturbation study involving 13,000 participants. It did not actually say anything at all interesting about masturbation, but it did note this. The survey, which asked Americans to evaluate which characteristics they believe min in their country value found approximately 90% of Americans think min value traditionally manly traits like physical strength, aggression and assertiveness and being the main breadwinner. However, when asking min what they actually value, the results found that min are more comfortable talking about their feelings and connecting with others and less comfortable being aggressive than Americans realize. 88% of men claim to be in touch with their emotions, but only 54% of Americans think this is important to min in their country. 77% are comfortable talking about their feelings or personal challenges with others, but only 51% of Americans survey think this is true of American men. I find that really interesting actually. I also find that interesting. Yeah. When people are asked, hey, how do men feel about talking about their feelings, they're like, they hate it. And when you ask men, they're like, actually, that's very important to me and I do it all the time. Yeah. I mean, that's like, you know, not exactly in that framing, but like what people say quite often is how important it is for me to be able to do that and not feel like the other those respondents who are like, oh, yeah, they don't like that. And like, which feeds into the idea that they shouldn't like that, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I, in general, I found this survey interesting, not so much about masturbation, although there's one really interesting part, which is that it found that Americans underestimate how often people masturbate consistently by 9 to 10%. Which might underestimate? Yeah, underestimate. Okay. People estimate that groups like that, that their peers masturbate about 9 to 10% less than those that group self-reports masturbate. Interesting, right? Which I might account for Dr. Peterson's belief in this area. So let's listen on. Next he goes into a rant about how evil progressives are trying to make boys believe they're bad people for being masculine. The purest manifestation of the destructive human force that's demolishing our beloved earth. You know, if you tell, tell it down from the time they're young, especially if they're actually ethical people, then well, why wouldn't they be demoralized? Obviously, the right response to that, if it's true, is to be demoralized. But it's a pack of lies right from the bottom up to the highest levels of abstraction. Talk to a man named Mary. And again, number one, this is just like a very basic mistating of what people who talk about the patriarchy are claiming. When people say like the patriarchy is destroying the world, what they're saying is that this like deeply hierarchical system that praises the accumulation of wealth and power largely by men in a male dominated society is killing the world is leading to like unhinged resource extraction and like the thoughtless exploitation of an environment that cannot handle endless growth. And that both kind of the excesses of capitalism and the excesses of a society in which like men are encouraged to be violent and like aggressive and seek the domination of their opponents are that like that that is a problem rather than that men are a problem. The issue is not men. The issue is a system that has grown up around incentivizing men to act like sociopaths right? That's the issue. Yeah. Yeah. He's done this before too. And now this is one actually one of the topics that made him cry some recently. And it's interesting partially because a lot of the Peter's and says can often could be characterized as being like demoralizing to groups of people. Yeah. Like who cares what you believe if you don't believe anything you're 16. Oh exactly. Yeah. Actually Jordan, many of most of the things that have happened in the world that have like changed the destiny of nations have been because a lot of teenagers believed to things very strongly. Oh yeah. But also like it's because the framing he's trying to do is like yeah, there's this and everything's going to be destroyed. So of course you're demoralized. But the part leaving out is that most people who criticize aspects of society or how the earth is going acknowledge that we can do something about it and should and it would be good if we did something about it. But his whole ideology is based off of not doing anything about society. So to him it is demoralizing more so because he's like well then there's nothing to do about it. So what would you turn to despair? Well no, you don't have to turn to despair. You could turn to like changing the way things are done. I don't think we're going to do that. But what I think we are going to do is have us a little ad break. Oh yeah. See if the evil uncle that is our sponsors will slay the dragon of us not owning enough things anyway. Mark of the old crown you see. Speaking of old crowns that would be a good name for like a bourbon. 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When he's also when he says that what he's saying is that like those traditional like patriarchal values are necessary for young men and that demonizing that behavior causes a crisis of manhood. So while I think most of the people who talk about the patriarch are saying that like this is bad for men and women and we need to like end it for the good of everybody, he is saying that like if you demonize this patriarchal domination of society, you're inherently demonizing men because they cannot be separated from it. They are incapable of living any other way, which I actually find as a man is pretty offensive. But it also, hearing that makes me think about another thing I read in that sex toy company study, quote, about 91% of respondents interested in male partners said their ideal man is in touch with his and other emotions, is comfortable discussing mental health 90% and talking about sex 88% caring of social issues 86% and comfortable interacting with people of all sexual orientations 83%. Compared to this ideal man, the same respondents said their current male partners are much less likely to have these traits 12% less on average. The survey revealed men are already moving in this direction with many benefits to being a man who feels more, including a better relationship with their partner. The emotional connection with partners is 20% better on average. More self and body confidence 63% of men who feel more have high levels of self confidence versus 54% of other men. This means they are 8% more likely to think they have a beautiful body. Overall higher levels of happiness 45% of men who feel more strongly agree that they are happy with their lives versus 29% of other men. A better sex life, the quality and frequency of their sex, masturbation and orgasms are 20% better on average than other men. They are also 18% more sexually satisfied with their partners. Better overall health 89% of men who feel more say they have good overall health versus 81% of other men. They are also 11% more likely to belong to a gym. So again, comprehensively, being thoughtful and in touch with your emotions and open minded to people of other genders and orientations and caring of your partner makes you a comprehensively happier person. More likely to have sex, not just more likely to have sex and masturbate, more likely to like go to the gym to take care of your own body. Exactly. To self-report being healthy. Yeah, exactly. Being healthy. You know what I mean? People who do, right? Like they didn't say this in the study that you just recited, but if I were to sort of distill it down, being more in touch with your feelings and open new emotions and sort of protecting these ideas we're talking about, will lead you to be more likely to clean your room? Yeah, and I think it's more than that. I think a big part of it is that like embracing the attitudes that Peterson has, which is that like life is this struggle and you have to be the master of everyone and everything around you and that doing anything else is going to make you unfulfilled and miserable. Is what makes you unfulfilled and miserable and caring about other people and listening to them and being agreeable and loving is what makes you happy and also makes you more powerful, both in a physical sense and in an emotional sense? Anyway, because he's even said things along those lines before too. His whole deal is sort of talking about both sides of his mouth in different clips. Like you can find him talking about what you just said in other clips and how, you know, if you want to like, talk about depression before and how a good way to get out of that funk is to focus on other people and helping other people. And, but he's not gonna, he can't like reconcile a lot of these sort of disparate thoughts that he has. Nope. So, that's pretty cool. We're barely two minutes into the episode and Jordan Peterson's entire theory of the world has already been demolished by a company that makes bibrators, which I think is pretty funny. Let's see what we can learn next. He brings up his friend, Mary and Tupi, author of books with, and he just says like, my friend Mary and Tupi, you know, and starts talking about this person's ideas. Mary and Tupi is the author of books with titles like Tin Global Trends, Every Smart Person Should Know, and Super Abundance, The Story of Population Growth, Innovation and Human Flourishing on an infinitely bountiful planet. Kind of in the context of this guy, Peterson brings up Paul Ehrlich, who is, Ehrlich is the guy who like made this bet about certain, he was a, he was a Malthusian, right? He was a guy being like the world overpopulation is coming, a bunch, there's gonna be a resource crunch. And he made a bet about a bunch of resources running out that was wrong, right? That's the, the gist of Paul Ehrlich. This happened in like the 80s and the right wing has never shut up about it as a reason to doubt that climate change is real and that a bunch of other problems are real. So Peterson contrasts Ehrlich and Malthusians like him who are pessimistic with optimists like his friend Mary and Tupi. And he, he describes Tupi as a perfectly objective thinker and analyst. Yeah. Sophie, can you play that clip? Mary and Tupi and his co-author analyzed historical data looking at the relationship between population, expansion and abundance, which is a positive relationship in that as there have been more people born, since there have been more smart and competent people born, which is a necessary consequence of that, we've got richer, not poorer. And the Malthusians say, yeah, well, you know, the other shoe will drop eventually. It's like, yeah, specify your timeframe, buddy. You don't get to have an infinite expanse to prove your hypothesis correct. It's like, okay, hold up there, Jordan. Since you have asked us to specify a timeframe, perhaps we should look into how your friend Mary and his predictions have held up from, let's say 2015, Mary and Tupi has been writing stuff for a while. And that is, I would say most people would agree that from 2015 to 2022, most things have gotten worse around the world, right? Food is more expensive, gas is more expensive. There's a massive land war in Ukraine. The consequences of climate change have gotten more disastrous wildfires have gotten worse all around the world. We've had the biggest ones in the history of both the American West and Australia, just to name a couple of places in the very recent past. So I think most people, even if you're not scared of like Trump and Bolsonaro and fucking the rise of all of these authoritarians around the world, would agree things have broadly gotten worse for a lot of people since 2015. It just so happens that Mary and Tupi is not as Peter's as an objective analyst of data, but a right-wing crank. He works for the Cato Institute, and his big thing is arguing that infinite wealth can be extracted from the planet, and everything will continue to get inevitably better if we just keep extracting. He's part of a whole team of think tank grifters, and in servicing this end, he's been a regular contributor at Kuala'tr, a far-right website who also publishes defenses of franology and national review. It was at the latter that he published a June 2015 article titled, Pope Francis' Unwarranted Gloom. And I'm going to quote from that now. The Pope, as the independent sums up in the Encyclical, asserts that the world's poorest are the biggest victims of a web of environmental, human, financial, and ethical degradation that puts the entire planet at risk. Risk, he lambasts rich countries for looting the world, warns that the world is facing widespread crop failure, economic ruin, and a verse that warming caused by the enormous consumption of some rich countries has repercussions in the poorest places on earth, especially in Africa, where the increase in temperature, combined with drought, has had de-rasp, disastrous effects on the performance of crops. Now, everything the Pope says there is absolutely true. And all of those facts have been proven absolutely true over the last seven years. Every single thing he said is undeniably objectively factually true. We are currently dealing with widespread crop failures this year, and unprecedented surges in food prices. In 2015, Marion Tupi wrote, quote, and this is him talking about the Pope. His views on anthropogenic global warming will be hotly debated, but his gloom is unwarranted. Well good news, Marion. The debate is over. 2018 brought Africa's hottest measured temperature on record, 124.3 degrees in Algeria, and in 2021, more than 400 weather stations around the world beat their all-time heat records. There's a ton that Tupi is wrong about here. He makes a big point about how poverty has declined, and in 2015, those numbers worldwide were looking pretty good. It did look like poverty was declining very rapidly around the world. But people who actually honestly analyzed the data, including Pope Francis, were able to see just a little bit ahead. And that a warming world with things like widespread crop failures in brutal pandemics was going to lead to a decline in what gains capitalism had brought people over the last 20 years or so. After COVID-19, the global poverty rate surged from 7.8 to 9.1%, wiping out at least four years of progress towards ending extreme poverty. So like, again, this guy, who Peter Sinclaim is Tupi, all these Malthusians, these people who are talking about how the world's heading towards resource crunches are wrong because they never specify their time frame. So like what they're saying isn't falsifiable. But Tupi has presented falsifiable claims about the state of the world, and they've all been falsified, right? Like his friend has been wrong. And because he's been writing for seven years, we can see the things he's been wrong about. He's talking about how like Pope Francis, it's debatable as to whether or not Francis is right about, you know, Africa warming and this having a disastrous impact on the poor. Well, we're now in 2022 and it's not debatable anymore. Mary. Mary Ann was fucking wrong. Anyway, Peterson next pivots back to crowing about Paul Ayrlich. And Tupi has extended that work to a basket of 50 commodities and has demonstrated now that each child born produces seven times as much wealth as they consume. So enough with there are too many people on the planet and, you know, human beings are destructive force and all male will is nothing but a cancer on the planet and part of the oppressive patriarchy. It's like, that's all there isn't a shred of evidence for any of that except. So yeah. He loves talking like that. He does. All he is doing here, it's worth noting. So Mary and Tupi is a media person. He has a bunch of videos, particularly on YouTube. He goes on podcasts all the time. And all he's saying is like a longer version of what Peterson's saying, right? That the more people who are born and the more people who like the more that we extract and from the earth, the wealthier, everyone will get that this is like a fact of reality that cannot be questioned. And again, it's like you're living through him being wrong. We're experiencing it every day of our lives in 2022. I mean, aside from like the general misrepresentation of a lot of the points being made by other people, it is just interesting seeing him get so angry about, yeah, things that like, we'll, we, like, because he filmed this in 2022, I assume. Yes. Yes. At which point it is very obvious that the stuff that Mary and Tupi was writing in 2015 was completely wrong. Yeah. And like I don't, I'm not personally in the camp of like overpopulation is like a problem. The problem is not overpopulation. It's over consumption by wealthy. Right. And allocation of resources and things like that. So I'm not like, ah, don't have babies. Degrowth like that kind of thing. But like this other stuff that he's saying is also wrong. Yes. It's one of those that he's making kind of the same arguments that I think Matthew Eglace is the guy who's like, we need to have a billion Americans. Yeah. It's like, no, we don't actually like, I don't believe overpopulation is the problem. But we certainly don't need to expand the population of wealthy countries or the population in general. Like, there's plenty of people. Um, yeah, it's, it's fine. It's fine. Even like, billions, a good number. Yeah. Even like the, uh, the, um, we don't need to talk a whole lot about birth rates and stuff. No, I'm every time it comes up, I'm always just like, okay, but like, it's going to go down to zero. Yeah. And then there be no people. Is that what you think is going to happen? Like, no, it's just people are, like number one, there's like less need to have multiple children. And it's broadly good when the birth rate does slow down, um, especially since it leads, like there's been a bunch of benefits to the fact that people no longer are having in the West like 12 child families, including the fact that like kids get more attention from their parents and are seeing less as like a disposable commodity, which they often were early in history. Um, I don't know. Uh, it's cool. I think the thing that, the thing that Tupi is saying that like, I find offensive is that this is a line of our, and there's a lot of guys whose whole job is making this argument that everything is getting better and that everyone who has complaints about the world and who sees things as like on a really dark course is just irrational and not looking at the actual facts. And what these arguments are geared towards is convincing a centrist middle class that the everything will get back to whatever they used to consider normal. The world will recover entirely from COVID. Climate change will get fixed by some unyet as of yet unseen scientific innovation. And neoliberal capitalism will continue to increase the value extracted from the earth every year forever. It is the do you don't have to worry or change anything argument, right? Yes. Yes. Yeah. It's, that's, I mean, his whole thing is don't do anything. Yeah. It'll work itself out. And Peterson likes this argument. And a lot of the people who is to push this argument are actually like more on the liberal side of things. But Jordan Peterson likes to use this argument because he, he has this kind of panglossian belief that everything is the best that it could be and is getting bet like, sorry, Peterson uses this argument. This like panglossian belief that everything is the best it could be in getting better to argue that masculine capitalist wealth seeking is altruism, right? That's why he finds this useful. And I want to play another clip here too. So not only are we not governed by the satanic expression of power, dooming us to a kind of authoritarian hell, what we're properly governed by is something like the spirit of voluntary play. And so that's all good. That's all necessary to know for young men because they're taught so often that their ambition is somehow intrinsically corrupt. And the best thing they could do is just, you know, sluff off into a corner and maybe die without making too much noise. Now I had a friend who committed suicide really because he believed that. It took him like 20 years to die. It was pretty painful to watch, but he definitely believed all that. Yeah. Yeah, the real joy of watching Peterson is that he'll just sort of veer off and like, say shit like this. And of course, we don't know anything. Like he says this happens over 20 years. So is he talking about like a guy with a substance abuse disorder or like that's what I'm thinking he's talking about. Yeah. Because he's not like, yeah, 20, like it sounds like, yeah, 20 years of like depression, right? Yeah. And because there are massive unsolved problems that the rich are like burning money in order to make it basically either illegal or impossible for people to solve. And Peterson's job is to reinforce those people and try to convince folks for another year or two that they don't need to take any action to stop the oil and gas companies and other wealthy interests from pilfering the world as it falls apart around us and they retreat to their fucking bunkers. Like that's literally his entire job. Everything is fine. Ignore the warning signs for another year. That's why he exists. That's why they fund that's why oil and gas being in the center of the market. Yeah. Who fund the daily wire funding this guy. That's why they're throwing so much money at him to do this. Yeah. And he does it by like some very unclear anecdote. And it's interesting because the people arguing everything is getting better. That's an argument that works for like the Obama style and the olibrils because it's like, look, the system, we just need to tweak it around the edges. This is fundamentally good and what we're doing is good. And Peterson is taking and saying like because everything is getting better and because we live in a society dominated by capitalist hierarchical men, being that kind of person is an alt is altruism. Like being a billionaire who, for example, buys a company, fires 75% of the people there loads it with debt and then crashes it is good because you're, you know, that that kind of behavior makes the world better. Obviously, men like that have been in charge since forever. So since they're in charge and the world's gotten better, they're outruists. It's the same sort of line of thinking he and like a lot of like like evolutionary biologists. Yeah. It's like evolutionary psychology sort of thing where it's like, well, because we're here today and alive every single step of evolution was good. Like the capital G. That's why we should preserve it, right? We're working. It worked then like millions of years ago. Therefore, we need to preserve it. And this is again, this is always the idea. This is always the actual ideology of the people who are in power. This is why Voltaire and fucking Candide, I brought up Pengloss. Like he is mocking this idea that like the, the, the, Pengloss is this like philosopher guy who's saying like, this is the best of all possible worlds and everything that happens and it is like the best that can possibly be, which is if you're in charge, always the way in which you want people to feel. Like that's all Jordan Peterson is is fucking Pengloss with a fucking pyramid. You're like, it's business pyramid rule. Yeah. Anyway, we should probably roll the ads. Love it. 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Now, so for one thing, he's saying that like because men are being told to like deny their natural kind of like aggressive status seeking natures, that's what's leading these explosions of violence, which is interesting because the United States is even with the recent surge we saw after COVID-19, less violent than it has been at basically any point in the lifetimes of anybody alive right now. Like when I was born in the late 1980s, the United States was vastly more violent than it is today, almost in every single part of the country. So why would that be, Jordan? Why would that be if we've also gotten more woke over time? I don't know, maybe just whatever. All of these things that he takes as evidence of a sick culture, lower birth rates increased understanding and rejection of patriarchy, more open-minded and emotionally connected men, these things have all occurred as violence has declined in the United States. And this is true even accounting for the increases in violence that some places experienced after COVID-19. And I'm going to quote from a New York Times article this August. Crime, murder and mass shootings have dominated headlines this year, just over the weekend is shooting in Cincinnati, wounded nine people, and another in Detroit killed one and wounded four. Full crime data tells a different story. Nationwide shootings are down 4% this year compared to the same time last year. In big cities, murders are down 3%. If the decrease in murders continues for the rest of 22, 22, this will be the first year since 2018 in which they fell in the United States. Huh. Again, this is also like there's a lot to blame the media on because if you graph how common shootings are in this country versus how commonly they're covered in the United States, coverage of shootings has soared massively. Well, shootings have more or less stayed stable in most of the country and slightly declined in a lot of places. And this is because like if it bleeds, it leads, right? This has led people to believe, apparently, that the United States is much more violent than it actually is right now. As where again, this is like a massive continuing problem, right? That as over the last 30 years, violence has declined, people have believed that cities have gotten more like there's that like you talk to a conservative and fucking Ohio about New York City and they'll be like, well, yeah, it's really dangerous. Like it's this crime-drenched hellhole. No, New York City is safer than virtually 100% of rural America. Exactly. Yeah, sounds like Peterson's a victim of the woke media. Yes, it does sound like he's a victim of the woke media. In the early 1990s, the US averaged around 10 murders per 100,000 people in the Obama years that dropped to a little more than four. And even though things have ticked up after COVID, they still topped out at around 700,000 and that is now declining again. That's a significant drop. Yeah, again, we were just like, we were just talking about like paying loss and stuff, but like the change in the commonness of violence and murder in the United States since the early 90s is stunning. Like it is a massive decline. Yeah, it's interesting that like the one thing, like he could be, he could be right about that one thing, but he chooses to be wrong about that one thing and everything else. Yeah, because if it's true that violent, that we're much less violent than we used to be, even given like how much attention shootings get in the media today, then the argument is that maybe like, oh, perhaps like all of these things that have changed about like encouraging men to talk about their feelings and accept other people and accept different sexual orientations and a wider understanding of gender. Maybe all of that actually like helped. I mean, maybe it's just getting the lead out of gasoline, but maybe that other stuff like it shouldn't hurt. Yeah, it did not hurt, but he would probably reject that too because he doesn't want to change anything about like environmental factors. Well, no, that effect you. Yeah, environment means everything. Yeah. That's a, he's such a little weiner. Yeah, so from here, Peterson claims that women are inherently interested in men based on the amount of resources that they have or are likely to generate. You know, women often get bad rap, especially from people in the manosphere, so called, for being hypergamous, which means mating across and across. Manus, socioeconomic hierarchies because women have a preference for men, young women. We're about four years older than them who are as well off or better off than they are. And it's a female calibration mechanism to, to remediate the inequality placed on women in relationship to pregnancy and infant care. So woman takes a vicious hit in terms of productivity when she becomes pregnant and has an average of. I'm sorry. Are you exactly four years older than me? I do wonder if that women prefer men four years older than them has anything to do with that like the older you get, the less likely you are to take Jordan Peterson seriously. Oh my god. More likely you are to be more in touch with your feelings. like matured a little bit and are a better partner. Yeah. But. Mm-hmm. Uh, I don't know. Like that's, that's, that's. Well, like what's his point? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's, it's such a transactional way of looking at relationships. Women prefer older men because they earn more and have more money and women know that they're going to take a, a financial hit by having a child because it reduces their productivity. And that's a, no, people don't think like that, Jordan. Like nobody, people do not go out into the world and decide to have like a child and go, well, then I need to get a man who has an additional four years of earnings so that his savings can like make up for the loss in productivity that I'm going to suffer for having this child. And I mean, some people might, I'm sure that there's, it's not a zero number, but like, I know a lot of people who have had kids and none of them thought that much about it. Mostly they just get pregnant and decide, I guess I'm going to have a kid because it feels like a good time to do it. Yeah, figure it out. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not us ladies. Four years older than us. I'm sorry. Where are you? Okay. I must dot the T at, okay. Great. We'll not, we'll not go on a date unless you've met all these qualifications because I might need to take your money so I may have a child. Yeah. That all, it makes perfect sense. Classic girl stuff. Yeah. That's totally how I think about things. Gosh. Yeah. It's a, I mean, it's, it's a really toxic. You get this because he, he's kind of laying it out as if like this is just like completely reasonable and uncontroversial. But the actual like argument he's making is that women are incapable of love. Well, that's right. That's just a fact, Robert. That is like the insult thing of like, well, women, women are hypergamous because it's a resource thing and that's the thing that they're thinking about is like maximizing their resources. And right. And as opposed to like the actual like, yeah, that like the connection that one hopes to have with another person. The reason why most people have kids is that they really want to fuck another person and then they get pregnant and decide, I guess I'm having a kid now. Look, that's not going to describe 100% of cases. But most of the people I know were like, well, yeah, I was with this guy or this lady and we had sex and then, you know, there was a pregnancy and we decided, I guess now's the time. Yeah. And he's, I think historically that's most pregnancies sort of apply like a person's value. And this is like, it's so weirdly harmful because he's sort of excusing this behavior and saying like, this is how it is and this is how it should be. Yeah. So you need to do this and this and this to get this high on his little hierarchy. And like it just puts so much value on like just money. That's the value that he's trying to focus on as opposed to all the other values that people look for when looking for a partner, I don't know, it's weird. Yeah. And a pleasant way to look at things. Yeah, I find it unpleasant. But you know what I do find pleasant Cody? The next thing you're going to say, I find your pluggables deeply pleasant Cody. I love it. I love it when you plug things. Nothing, nothing Cody, can I say, nothing gets me harder? You can say it. Thank you again. Say it again. I did. I have. I will continue to. Yeah, you will. It's a hard whatever anything. Any hole. All right. Enough of that. Hi, I'm Cody and I have things on the internet. You can Google me. Cody, Johnston is the name. Got to show on YouTube called some more news and a podcast called Evenmore News. And patreon.com slash some more news is where you can support us for those things. Wow. And furthermore, that's it. Love it. Wow. I mean, you've courageous. Check out my band, The Hot Shapes. Awesome. Wait, you have a band? Yeah, we don't have, technically we have songs available yet, but we will probably by the time this air is actually. Cool. It's called The Hot Shapes. Now Cody, tell me this. When you say a band, what kind of music do you play? Is it Scott? It's not Scott, unfortunately, I'm so sorry. And yet you think it's music. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. Subjectively music. 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