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You know, this is my second time on the show, but after the first time, I learned. ******* steal yourself. Yeah, yeah. Buckle in. Dark as ****. Get ready for the roller coaster. Well, your last episode with us was our epic 2 parter on King Leopold of Belgium, who killed like 13 million people, half of all of the people in central Africa because he wanted rubber. Sweet, sweet rubber dollars reward is always so ludicrous when you even when you think of it as money, you're like, really? No, he didn't really intend to kill that many people, but he knew. Yeah, yeah, he accepted. That was the cost of his today we're talking about. Another genocide to one that was accidental, done by well meaning nice people who thought that they were making the world a better place. So that's gonna be really fun. Great. Yeah. Now, on November 17th, 2018, a young emergency medical technician and Christian missionary named John Ellen Chow traveled to North Sentinel Island, an isolated island in India's Andaman Islands, and tried to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the natives therein. Unfortunately, the Sentinelese people had no desire to hear this gospel, and even less desire to let some stranger onto their island. They shot him to death with arrows, and shortly thereafter his story went viral on the Internet. I'm gonna guess you ran into this at least. Oh yeah, I was gonna say without without marking this too close. In time, when I talked about this on yozis racist, I half asked so many of the facts because I just didn't. I was like, I think I know what's happening here. So I'm actually very glad to be with someone who did research and knows what the **** they're talking about. I read a lot about John Ellen Show, but this episode is not going to be particularly about him. It is. It is about why I think it's fair to call him a *******. Yeah, but this is actually about, we're talking about the tails of the Andaman Islands. This entire island chain where he was N Sentinel Island is located behind the history that I think John knew going into this. Or even not like, yeah, you can still just be like, hey, maybe leave people alone. If they shoot at everyone who lands on their own, maybe, maybe leave them alone. I guess that's just the devil telling you you need to talk to these people extra hard. Well, he did say the devil was. This was like one of his. That strong? Really? Yeah. Something like that. Oh yeah. Like you're writing. He did before he. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let me just take the opportunity because I figure this is the time. He's one of the worst Asian people. I just, I I always feel like bad when, like, Asian folks take on like this, like, white, savory, colonialist type of role. And, like, this guy is extra in it. The last strongholds of the devil. Yes, something that was his exact phrasing, but something similar to that. I guess to be fair, if homeboy had come to one of the other ones my apartment, I would have shot him with an arrow, too. So, you know about the same. You're famous for that. Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah, that's actually why we brought you on. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of talk of arrows today. Immediate response for much of the Internet to John Chow's journey and death was distaste and even hatred for his actions. People called him a colonizer. Some people attacked him as a bad person for recklessly risking the lives of everyone on that island by exposing their Stone Age immune systems to his 21st century pathogens. In the days since his death, the Indian government has failed to recover his body and announced they will no longer attempt to do so. His religious compatriots, who will talk more about later, have been kind of torn. There have been, in total fairness, a lot of Christians and even a lot of Christians in the missionary community who have been like. It's really clear these people don't want to talk to us. This was a bad call. Yeah, yeah, but a lot have also risen up to defend him and have written articles for Christianity Today and the Washington Post pointing out that John Chow was hardly some thoughtless adventure. They note that he trained as a wilderness EMT before going. They know that he took linguistics training. They note that he got heavily vaccinated and spent time in what is vaguely described as a quarantine before going over there. So their argument seems to be that no, no, no, he's not. He. This was an act of love, and this was something he prepared for heavily. And I think the fact that he prepared for it so heavily is kind of what condemns him in my eyes because he will have known the history that we have to get into today. So wait, as far. Let me just reach back into a tiny bit of biology training, too. It's like if he made himself heavily vaccinated, that makes him more likely to be carrying the pathogens that these people are not vaccinated. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because that's the great things. That's why vaccines are helpful, is that, like, there's people who can't get vaccinated with bad immune systems and then you can't spread the flu to them. OK. It's one of those things. It sounds like you put in a lot of work to try to be safe to them, but also, like I went through EMT training, it does not include how to do a quarantine on yourself so that you can contact the Stone Age people. It's not a public health that's not part of the EMT. So the first European to describe the Andaman Islands was Marco Polo. He said that the people there were, quote, a brutish and savage race, having heads, eyes and teeth like those of dogs. They are very cruel and kill and eat every foreigner whom they can lay their hands upon. Now, old Marco was not one for actual field research. Historians suspect that he basically heard some vague rumors and then reported on them as if they were his own findings. Just kind of have the whole Marco Polo thing, but the brand. So that's OK, it's what you do and as a hack. Fraud, I appreciate your kind of fraud. So there is clearly a nugget of truth there. And I think he probably did talk to some people who had been around the Andaman Islands, some like Indians who had been in that area. Because what he says about them murdering every foreigner they can get their hands on is one of the through lines of this story is in the centuries before they were contacted, anytime someone got close to the Andamans, it was just shooting like that has been the whole island chains policy for quite a while now. The Andaman Islands are located in the Bay of Bengal, which is to India, with the Gulf of Mexico is to the United States. Only while the Gulf of Mexico has been turned into a floating pile of garbage and flesh eating bacteria by the filthy, filthy people of the East Coast. The Bay of Bengal is not one endless oil spill, although I'm sure it has its problems. It will be. It will be. Everything will be. Don't worry, once we catch them up to our cool society, we'll get them on the same train. Yeah, you guys should see what we did to the gulf in Texas. People lose their skin. They all deserve the luxury of the worst that nature can do. That is the beauty of our. System now, the Andamans are kind of in the middle of the Bay, closer to Thailand than the mainland of the Indian subcontinent. In other words, geographically speaking, there in the middle of nowhere, east of Jesus, isolated as ****. So it's easy to understand why. It wasn't until 1771 that the grasping hand of colonialism first realized that there was **** worth stealing there. So this is one of the latest parts in the globe that, like colonial, people start to explore, right? Because it's such a pain in the *** that resources are. It's probably relatively small. I'm recalling that it's very small screenshot of a map. I saw some pretty good boats to get out there. People aren't doing this in like the 1500s, you know, white people aren't. So 1771 is not enough rubber, not enough sweet, sweet rubber. Although that was later than this as well. We were not enough. I mean, the Portuguese was like copper. Yeah, definitely not enough copper for our desires. I don't know if that actually, but I assume they don't have much copper. I feel like, you know, in in terms of. Ease of boat murder? Yeah, not worth it. I've known a couple people from the animals and they didn't look like they had a lot of copper. OK, yeah, and individually, I mean, but neither do any of us. And I think we have copper, so that may be a bad way to judge that. Literally haven't had a copper in years. Of 1771 is the year that the East India Company frequent. *******. Yeah. I was gonna say, yeah, you guys, you guys have a musical sting for them. Yeah, we should. There should be like a done done for the recurring characters. East India's got to be right up there because. Yeah, as soon as the British East India Company comes into a story, you know there's going to be some genocide. Yeah. You know, there's going to be some genocide and it's going to be really **** *****. That's their number one brand. Yeah. Is **** ***** genocide. Yeah. The British Empire could best be described as slow Nazis. Yeah, in terms of like, their death toll, like, they didn't do it at a hate. It was just like, oh, we accidentally ****** ** all the agriculture in India and 30 million people died are bad. Yeah, yeah, like accident. The accidental Nazi. The accidental slow Nazi. So the East India Company survey ship diligent first sailed past N Sentinel Island in 1771, it reported. And that's the island, of course, where John Chow was killed with the Sentinelese tribe and such. It reported, quote, a multitude of lights upon the shore. So it seemed to be heavily. Populated at this point, the ship rolled on without stopping because when it got too close to other islands, people had shot arrows at the boat for a long time. The animals in general were too far away and too dangerous to be worth exploding exploiting. So the East India Company for exploding? Yeah, well, either they find it in 1771, but the British don't really do anything about it. Like the ******* middle of nowhere, everybody shooting at us. Why take that stress on? You have to be a pretty small island for the British to be, like, not worth murdering everyone here, OK? Not good at leaving Tiny Island. Yeah, they love it. They love that ****. So it was not until December 31st, 1857, when colonialism actually started to take an interest in the Andamans. That's when another ship from the East India Company, a steamer named the Pluto, came barreling through the waters of the Andaman Islands. The boat had been sent from the capital of Company controlled, India, Calcutta, to study the islands and see if they might be a good place to put one of the penal colonies. The British were so very fond. Cool. Of them some. If you if you've ever talked to an Australian, you know, the British loves you. Yeah. I mean, we got the Mad Max movies out of that. So it's not all bad. Yeah. Yeah. There was some genocide. Lot of genocide, actually. A huge amount of genocide ongoing up to the present moment. But Mad Max. But so it's a push. Pretty good movies to push. You got to take what you can. That's right out of history. The bright shining lights. Yeah. And, you know, fosters isn't a good beer, but I have been places where it's the best beer. And those are sad places, but they're places where you need beer. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess they do those meat pies where they pour soup on them. So that's cool. I don't know about that, but I feel like you could. You could have done that in Newcastle, too. So, yeah, I feel like that's probably a British thing. Yeah. They just stole. Well, they're British. They took along with them. Yeah. So at at that point in history, 1857, the Indian subcontinent was busy being convulsed by the Sepoy Rebellion, a bloody mutiny of the East India. Companies, Hindu and Muslim troops, sparked by the fact that the British had not told these very religious colonial soldiers that they relied on in order to keep control in their colonies, that the ammo cartridges they used were soaked in pig and cow fat. So they they went out of their way to not tell Hindu and Muslim soldiers that, like, the act of using the bullets that they were being issued with required them to violate their. So there was there was a little bit of a rebellion and such, which is so funny too, because it's like, hey, that **** is ******* superstition. And like you, you would risk your already tenuous hold on these ******* murder sellouts by having them violate their. I guess. I guess the trick there was to have Muslim troops kill Hindu civilians and vice versa. I mean, that's what they did in the whole empire. You would try to get troops like, that's how it where Indiamen came from is like his tribe and he like, oh, we can send them to other parts of Africa and they don't give a ****. Just let the sectarianism continue. That was all. That's colonialism. In a nutshell, but they were not always good at it as the Sepoy Rebellion is evidence of. We'll talk about that in more detail in another episode. But you know today that that's what's happening. That's why they need a penal colonies. So that day in 1857, the Pluto comes, you know, rolling through the animates, the journey had been pretty good for most of its length. The crew was very multinational, not just British people, but a lot of like Indians and stuff like it was, it was a pretty mixed, you know, multicultural, more diversity in our slave. Yeah, well, they were sailors. They were getting paid, sure, yeah. Or yeah. Or not a slave. Ships are ******* colonial, quasi paramilitary Navy ish style vessels. Yeah, yeah, that's a better attitude towards it. Not dissimilar to the Nostromo, I guess. No, actually a lot like the Nostromo. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot like I've read a lot of detail about their their ship had abandoned stuff. They didn't have a cat, but they had a dog. It's kind of like the Nostromo, if the alien was the one that you wound up sympathetic for, why you don't? We got to watch this movie, OK. So yeah, the crew had, yeah, but sailing around the islands looking for places to put a penal colony. And then when they were near the end of their expedition, the Pluto man ran smack dab into a group of several anemones, fishermen hanging out in canoes, doing their thing. And this was the first interaction in the East India personnel and I think any Europeans had ever had with anemones, people. They'd spotted a few tribesmen and women during their voyage from, like, the water, but always at a distance, and what glimpses that usually had ended in an animal shooting arrows at them. Not not a bad when. When was this? This was the 1857. So what were arms like for European folks? Pretty good. Pretty decent rifles at that. You're talking like civil war level technology. Yeah. Rifles are pretty formidable thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So a lot of a lot of flintlock rifles and stuff like that. Yeah. You know, so maybe they had muskets or whatever. I don't know how advanced the firearms the companies issuing, but there was, they had got that point. Yeah, they had guns and they were probably pretty decent. So the Pluto saw the fisherman as an opportunity to make first contact, which they thought was really exciting. They're like, oh, we get to talk to these. And they, it seems like they were probably good intentions with these guys. They're like, oh, it's exciting, we'll get to meet, you know, other human beings. That's a really cool thing for us to be able to do. So they sent out a couple of long boats. Filled with men, including the chairman of the Andaman Committee, which was the group of people running this boat, the Andaman Committee, because it's a corporation. So you've got, you know, you've got your board of directors for the boat. So it's a little bit like a SpaceX board member. This is exactly like how SpaceX would have explored the first alien. Yeah, exactly. This is exactly that sort of situation. So what could go wrong? So they get on their boats and they're sailing towards these and fishermen who are just in little dugout. The news and like the canoes that these people use, they're taking like trees that they chop down tropical hardwoods and for months carving out the center of the tree to make a canoe. So these are pretty primitive boats, pretty low tech people, and so yeah, they they sail out to them with like a couple of dozen dudes and the chairman of the Andaman committee waives his white handkerchief the fisherman, and hopes that they will know that this means peace, even though they're an uncontacted Stone Age tribe who does. In most cases. I don't think most of these tribes even had writing, so kind of a stretch to assume. Know what? A white flag or a flag? Because they don't have nations. I guess they have. Cloth, they do, yeah. They don't wear anything. They're naked, they wear jewelry and stuff, but they don't really wear clothing, so need it. Yeah. They're not making much in the way of cloth. They sure don't have flags. So this guy waves his white handkerchief at the fisherman and they have no idea what he's doing. So they just start shooting at them, which is what they do. And why, in 1857, they're one of the only people who have not been ****** with by colonialism, right? Because they try to murder everyone. It's a smart strategy, yeah. So they do the thing that's always worked. Or, and they start shooting at these guys, but the company men fire back with, you know, pretty modern guns and stuff. So they kill three enemies, including the chief. And he's described by the men who were there as having fallen back in his canoe, quote, almost with the dignity of Caesar. So they're sad that they have to do this, but they, you know, they they opened fire. I don't think the enemies kill any, but a bunch of these guys get injured by their own men because one of the boats fires on the other boat in a panic because they're not, you know, East India companies getting the cheapest soldiers, they generally. Go to fire. Even with good soldiers? Yeah. Good fire. Guess what, folks? To this day, yeah, gunfire is insanely unpredictable. Well, and yeah, I mean, you look at like Desert Storm. And we probably lost more men to our own rockets hitting them than leaving the Iraqis. Yeah, it's pretty common today, so no one seems to know how. But during this brief fight with the anemones, one of the anemones fishermen wound up on the companies boat. Or in a company long boat. I want to quote from a tremendously fine article in the American scholar. Titled quote The Last island of the Savages, which is the best thing anyone's written on the elements on this aspect of the animals that I've come across, at least, it is not clear how he got there. The only sources we have are two different accounts by the ENDERMAN Committee chairman. One says that the man was seized as he tried to swim away, the other that he grabbed a leather strap thrown to him from the longboat. Willingly or not, he fell into enemy hands and was brought back to the Pluto. Once aboard the steamer, at least, he does not seem to have struggled. The sailors promptly named him Jack and dressed him in an old coat and trousers. The clothes must have belonged to one of the cabin boys since Jack, though a full grown adult, was well under 5 feet. One of the crewmen gave him a plug of chewing tobacco, which he swallowed. Another tried to teach him unsuccessfully to smoke a clay pipe. So cool. We murdered this guy's friends and adopted him from the only life he's ever known. I guess we'll give him drugs. Oh my God. I mean, I guess that's as good a chance of any as like it. When when we first encounter aliens. That's a **** that's gonna happen. I mean, the first thing I'm offering an alien is either a joint or sex, I guess. And I have a standing offer. I'll **** any aliens. Yeah? Yeah. Anything from another planet. That sentient? Yeah. You can't say no. Yeah, you got to give that a shot. You have. Which is why I'm going to bring space syphilis back to the world. Yeah, probably wipe out 2/3 of the planet, but it'll be worth it. Oh yeah. Especially for us. Yeah. So we didn't need that 2/3. So the Andaman Commission report from the time does make a claim as to how Jack wound up on board. Quote one of the natives went in the water, seized a strap thrown to him from the second cutter and was taken on board. The committee deliberated anxiously as to the disposal of this man, whether to release or to carry him to Calcutta. They ultimately decided on. The latter course is the one required by the interests of humanity, although attended with hardship to the individual until he can be instructed sufficiently to know the reasons which led to his removal from his country and his kindred, so in the interest of humanity. These business guys are like, we gotta abduct this guy, obviously. I'm not 100% clear, but it sounds like some of the reports I read, they took the skulls of a couple of the people they killed, too. So it sounds like they may have skeletonized his friends and brought them on the boat too, and then been like this. Let's take this guy that's kind of more common practice of the day. It's a very it's what you do phenology and stuff is a thing. These are new people. Mishearing I. It felt a little bit like the the alternative they were offering was just dumping them overboard and killing him. No, I mean, I'm going to guess these are island people. I'm going to guess he's decent. Number they could have they could have dropped him off in an island and been like, sorry, yeah, yeah, we didn't win a gunfight to happen. Yeah, probably shouldn't. Anyway, they abduct him instead. Now, there is one heartwarming detail in today's entire terrible story, and I'm going to drop it now. Good. While Jack was languishing on the smelly, weird, smoke belching boat filled with aliens and probably the corpses of his friends, he encountered a type of creature he had never seen before. Neptune, the ship's dog. Yes, there were no dogs or wolves on the Enderman islands, and yet Jack instantly recognized that dogs are good. He hugged the animal and started petting it, and the two became best friends for the duration of their voyage home. So cute. Yeah, Neptune was Jack's only solace on his long abduction from Calcutta. So that's. It's pretty cool that this guy who's never seen a dog before winds up in the most terrifying situation a person can be in and immediately is like, oh, but that thing's cool. Like, clearly that's my friend. Wow. Yeah. Boy, dogs are good. Nice. Yeah. I do want to note that as bad as all this sounds, it was being done with the most humanitarian of intentions by company personnel. Or at least that's how they justified this themselves. At this point, the NIA obliteration of the Native Americans in North and South America was well known and considered to be a horrific cautionary tale by the British. These guys were really. Yeah, they. I mean, because it was it was terrible what was done. I mean they there were people who recognized that at the time, maybe not carica, but a lot of people around the world and there was a lot of sympathy. This is a long running thing in Europe. Like it's white. Hitler was always obsessed with Native American novels and stuff. Yeah like it's a thing, this sort of like fetishization of native cultures. But it was very much there was that attitude that it was a tragedy isn't new people at the time because in 1857 we were still ******* with the Native Americans. Yeah, people in like Europe and other parts of the world. The time knew that was messed up. Yeah. And the fact that a lot of these guys, you know, they didn't have the detail now that we have about how many people were in North and South America before colonial contact and how many died from the disease. But they knew that a lot of them had died from disease. They didn't have germ theory, but it was pretty clear, right? Tended to end badly. So these guys would not be considered woke by modern standards, but by the standards of the time and of the British Empire. A lot of the people involved in these decisions were pretty progressive people, right? Well, the alternative alternative was murdering everyone. Yeah, so anything shy of that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So the there was no desire to enslave Jack or put him in a cage. This isn't like a Christopher Columbus thing where, like, we find these people, and I mean, well, let's open some of them, like. But they did take him back to Calcutta and he was kept in the mansion of the Andaman Committee chairman. He was given a fine suits of tailored clothing and taken around to all the high society Calcutta had to offer. He met the viceroy, Lord Canning, and greeted his wife by trying to quote blow into her hand with a cooing murmur. This was apparently a traditional greeting of his people. And I have trouble. Figuring it myself, but that's how it's describing. I don't. Yeah. I don't know where that works. I'm doing it. Ohh to everyone, right? You think that's the sound, right? So Jack did eventually seem to get into the swing of things, and it seems like he even started to enjoy being the talk of the town and taking care of. Yeah. And stuff. You know, compared to say, again, like Christopher Columbus, first contact with the Andaman people was relatively less terrible. Still exploitative, still gross in a lot of ways. But again, you can see the difference. You can see these people know it's ****** ** to do what Columbus did, and they don't want to be that right, right, right. So worth pointing out. In some ways, those people are more woke than a lot of Americans living today. Well, yeah, just just to be fair. That's not unfair. Yeah, it's always been a curve. So and and it was still pretty gross in their time, too. I don't want to cover that up either. At one point, a picture of Jack was taken to be sent to Alexander von Humboldt, the German naturalist who became the namesake for my favorite county in America. Jack was asked to pose naked for this photo, and he'd gotten used to wearing clothes at this point and kind of realized it was weird that they wanted him to be naked, so he refused. But eventually they needled him until he agreed to strip. I only bring this up because it will not be the last time that we talked about. Creepy forced nudity and the animated people. Yeah, I saw some of the news reports. Yeah, yeah. So we are going to continue talking about what happens to Jack. Not great. And we're going to continue talking about the accidental genocide of the Animan Islands. But first, something intentional that's not genocide is the products and services that support this podcast. Mint Mobile offers premium wireless starting at just 15 bucks a month. And now for the plot twist. Nope, there isn't one. Mint Mobile just has premium wireless from 15 bucks a month. There's no trapping you into a two year contract. You're opening the build to find all these nuts fees. There's no luring you in with free subscriptions or streaming services that you'll forget to cancel and then be charged full price for. None of that. 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Did he ever, maybe you're getting to this, did he ever manage to leave behind anything written or. Yeah, no. And I don't think that was a priority of people. Right, right, right. There was clearly some communication that they were able to work out, but I mean, it's one of those things if you. Grow up in a society without writing to adulthood. Yeah. The odds of you, right. And it's not that they're any less intelligent because I've been reading about some of these tribes, and the average people in these will be able to recognize something like 400 something different plants, many of which in individual medicinal and like 3 or 400 different animal species. Like, there's a lot of knowledge in these places, but they don't focus on the same things. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's hard to imagine someone picking that up writing at adulthood without the concept. And I'm sure there was not a priority. Yeah. Teach him anything. No, no, I mean, I'm sure there was product to teach him how to behave in public. Don't think people were like, oh, and he should probably read the rights of man. Yeah, right, right. Right. So after about two weeks in Calcutta, Jack got horribly ill with cholera surprise. Company doctors gave him medicine, but since medicine back then was mostly nonsense and whiskey, it didn't do much to alleviate things. Jack got over the cholera, but wound up with severely inflamed lungs. So maybe he didn't really get over the colony. Company panicked because public relations was a thing now, and Jack had become something of a sensation. It would not look good if he died in their care, right. They agree that the most ethical way to deal with this looming tragedy was to ship Jack back to the animals so he could die far away from the press. Sure. Oh, and be back with his family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The viceroy. Ordered him, sent back. He was given presents, many presents, and shipped back to his home on South Reef Island. He'd gotten sicker the whole time he was on board because that's how dying works. By the time they dropped him off alone, naked, on the shore with a bunch of pots and pans and tailored clothing, the ship searched. Noted quote, it could not be ascertained whether he was pleased or not at being restored to his home. Jesus, right? Yeah. He's the upgraded version of smallpox blankets right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They they take this guy to their thing. They give him some clothes. Get him sick and then they drop him off when they don't know what else to do with him. Back on his island covered with modern industrialized nation pathogens, 1 presumes Jack died. One also presumes that he may have spread his Super Fund diseases to his fellow anemones, people who had never been exposed in them before. So we don't know exactly how many people were in the elements prior to the British coming, prior to Jack being sent back. We can presume from the context clues that British contact with the islands was just as violent. Devastating in the animals, as it was basically everywhere else, regardless of their good intentions, whether or not Jack spread cholera or whatever to his fellows, disease quickly tore through the islands as the first European and Indian settlers landed, because they were going to build that ******* penal colony company. Established Port Blair in 1789, it became the empires capital in the Andamans until rampant sickness and death forced them to move it in 1796. Oh, you even sickness and death amongst. Yeah. Because they're all still the jungle and yeah, it's the jungle. Medicine is whiskey. Yeah. Like, they they don't have a lot of British people dying, too. Yeah. And I guess for what it's worth, I mean, we always talk about modern pathogens, but it's more just like different pathogens, right? Like, that's part of it is like, you can just have different stuff. I mean, the odds are not as high. I guess the biggest thing is that we live around animals. Yeah. Everyone in even in India, too, which I think is probably why you didn't hear about, like, the same sort of. These are sweeping through them because, well, they already lived. They domesticated. Yeah, animals. Vaguely. Remember that part of guns, germs and steel? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a lot of reasons this goes badly. So the author of that wonderful American scholar article, Adam Goodhart, actually traveled to the National Archives of India in New Delhi and looked over some of the books from the records of the company and the British Rajas rule in the Andaman Islands. Entries in these notebooks include titles like quote. Flogging to check. A natural crime in the settlement of Port Blair. Mortality among the sheep sent from Calcutta branding of life prisoners. Sentence of death passed on via Allio alias Phillip and Andamanese. Port Blair Superintendent, applies for large ice machine. OK, this is all bad on not all bad. Got that ice machine. That's pretty sweet. I mean, I assume that's a gin and tonic machine. Branding people is not nice, but I do support ice. Yeah, yeah, not the department, but the concept and the flocking thing. I guess that's just data you're collecting flogging to unnatural crime. Which I am curious about. What does that mean? Probably having whatever the British considered wrong. Sex. Yeah. Yeah, that would be my guess. Now, according to Goodheart. The number one topic of discussion between the authorities in Calcutta and their officers in the Andamans was what was to be done with the Andamanese Aboriginal people. Quote the British arrived in the islands determined that their contact would be above reproach. They did not behave like the Americans on the Upper Plains or the Belgians in the Congo ****** and butchering for sport. Nor had they any desire to repeat the unpleasant experience of their compatriots in Tasmania, whose careless expansionism had led to the accidental extinction of an entire race. This is not the British have a history of that rather than. The first Superintendent was dispatched to the animals in 1858 with the unequivocal instructions that the natives be treated with the greatest forbearance in humanity and that they be promptly informed that our intentions towards the people of the Andamans are of the most friendly character. So, again, where your buddies? We're just here to help out. We're here. You're not using these. All of the land? Yeah. Prisoners. You have prisoners. We might mine some stuff, that's all. That's all a little bit on mining. And prisoners, little head of the British Empire. We swear it won't become a problem. How likely is that? Yeah, at least they're trying. Good for you know what? Good for that, good for the British Empire. I say that all the time. So the Andamanese people, by contrast, made it clear that they wanted not one ******* thing to do with the British Empire. The standard response by these people was to flee if there were too many British people, or to try and murder them in self-defense. Repeated ambushes of Royal and company troops eventually sparked a war and a great battle wherein men with Spears charged a modern British warship and its modern British guns. Jesus, this did not end well for the enemies people. In fairness to them, if you're at their level of technological sophistication and you see a Steamboat with cannons on it, you probably think that's a monster. Yeah, we just have to. All charges? Yeah, killed it. It's like, it's like a dinosaur. You have no choice. What you would do, anyone would would act that way if something that looked similar, just this giant monster coming out. What do you do? What do you do? Anyway, once they were beaten and subdued by rampant disease, most of the antimony survivors eventually appeared to decide if you can't beat them, join them. They stopped fleeing, started hanging out in British settlements and asking for coconuts and liquor and cigarettes. The British, in response to this setup and demonise homes where volunteers would be allowed to live if they let the Englishman try to civilize them. By British estimation, they took pretty good care of the anemones natives. One official at the time, noted quote, the government of British India has adopted a policy towards the Aborigines of the Enderman Islands which has made them. Above all races of savages the most carefully tended and petted. That's not nice. Doesn't give you a little shiver, right? Yeah, when you read what colonialist colonizers wrote about what they were doing, even the ones who aren't, like, outwardly racist and say **** the Indians like Andrew Jackson level. Yeah, it's all just so gross. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's still like the phrenology level of classifying humans. Races of Savage yeah, yeah. Now, many aboriginals were adopted temporarily by company officials who spent time in the islands. They would like live in their houses and work as servants and stuff. Some nicknames for these people because the British could never learn their real names are found in documents include quote Topsy, Snowball, Jumbo, Kitty Boy, Ruth, Naomi, Joseph, Caruso Friday, Tar Baby King John Moriarty, Toeless Punch Jacko. Jingo ***** and Queen Victoria's Jesus Christ. I mean, I guess, right? It is is is they were treating them like animals. I mean, I can't blame them for toeless, because if I knew a guy with no toes, I would call him a bunch of extra toes. Yeah, I would call him TOEFL. Yeah, that's that one's OK. You see someone without toes, you call them toeless. Can't blame a man for that. All the others, though? Yeah, it's it's like they're treating them like pets. So yeah. 3K snowball, yeah, yeah, Queen Victoria. That is literally the name of the cat in The Simpsons. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty bad. Yeah, pretty bad and yeah, pretty bad. Better than they've ever done it before. Pretty bad. And yet the best of this, sort of, yeah, yeah, because at least they're not whipping them to death for a rubber wow. Not often. Not often they whipped in the death, but not forever. Them, yeah. And if they happen to die, they whip them too hard. They whipped them too hard, and that's regrettable, and they know that. Yeah. And they feel bad. Yeah, they do. The Intiman people became, briefly something of a meme around the British Empire. Hundreds of books and photographs were passed around England with images of naked tribesmen fishing and dancing and worshipping. Now you have to remember that white people at this time were just as fascinated by stories of native tribes as we've always seen. But this was the first example, you know, in sort of this modern era of photographs being available of an uncontacted tribe being really reached so that they're able to like. Ohh, we can show people what it would have looked like in North America back before we killed. All right, right, right. Yeah. You know that that that's kind of the the attitude here. And so that's why people are just fascinated with all these pictures they can get of the anemones. Now one thing that helped to spread the popularity of the anemones people was the fact that, oddly enough, they seemed to be slowly dying out. Weird how that works now. Between 1864 and eighteen 79150 babies were born by the women living in the Andamanese home. None of these babies lived past two. It was noted by observers at the time that it seemed as if the will of the anemones people to continue existing had been broken. Sure, yeah now. But beyond that is there any is just disease probably. Or disease? But they were noted as all being depressed, maybe because all their friends had died. Yeah. Yeah. And the STD's didn't help Europeans had instantly, as soon as they started establishing settlements in the islands, began fetishizing the enemies women. And so syphilis and gonorrhea tore through the unprepared immune systems of the Aboriginal women like wildfire. This came as a real surprise to the British government. They'd assumed that, quote excessive development of fat around the gluteal region that had been noted in Aboriginal females and the animals would stop the British soldiers and sailors from finding them attractive. Yeah, that's pretty gross, right? That's that's pretty rough. That's literally the the open to baby got back. Yeah. But with genocide. Yeah, baby got back. But genocide, yeah. Yeah. So it was into this environment that we have just been painstakingly setting up 1879 that a man named Maurice Vidal Portman was made officer in charge of the anemones. Now, Portman had joined the Royal Indian Marine at age 16 and risen quickly through the ranks until he found himself, basically. The guy in charge of the dying Andamanese race I'd like to quote from his obituary because it really gives you a sweet, sweet hit of that British Empire flavor that we've all come to love. Yeah, but yeah, get ready here now. This was written in 1935, by the way. Well, yeah. For the Times of London, in many parts of the islands the natives were either still ferocious enemies or at best half tamed, and his work consisted in making contact with them and very gradually bringing them to recognize the value of British rule. Above all men. He had the native touch, that rare mysterious gift that attracts and makes friends at once with natives. And slowly, through a long period of years, he made his gift prevail, work of extraordinary difficulty, for most of them were as shy as wild animals, and often of. Extreme danger. He would frequently have to land on their beaches, standing up in an open boat amid a shower of poisoned arrows, but in course of due time he won them by sheer personal magnetism. He doctored them. They were very rapidly dying out from venereal disease. He judged them, and if necessary, he hanged them. Yeah, that's a 1935 Jesus. Ohh, also, they were dying out also. He hanged them. Yeah, well, you know, that's the good and the now I don't feel so bad about all the **** I wrote about John McCain. ****. It's fine, man. **** it. Wow, there's plenty of fun and obituaries. Yeah, be * ****. It's good. Now that's from his yeah, between the time to know. Obviously his obituary in the Times of London is not an unbiased account of Mr Portman's Life and Times. I did find a more balanced description of his life in the book Lonely Islands, the Negrito people in the out of Africa story of the human race, and I should cause you to say that is where the comedy group got their name from. Ohh yeah. Lonely island. Oh, oh, Oh yeah. No, I mean, maybe the aboriginals of the animal islands are called the Negrito people because they are black skinned and they were like essentially 60 something thousand years ago, people from Africa figured out how to get boats up to the Andaman Islands, which I can't even comprehend what kind of course that's tourney would take. That just sounds insane. But they made it storms in an accident and like, you ******* survive and that's where you live. You know, I mean, but that's a long. Yeah. Like, that's that feels intentional. People were looking for something. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how else. Yeah. And the name calling them the Negrito people was a name given to them by racists and a racist time. But that's one of the terms you'll hear for these people. I feel uncomfortable saying it because it's tough. Feels gross. But anyway, here's a quote from that book Lonely Islands quote. This is about Portman. He was very popular with the anemones. Enough to attract his predecessors. Envy. That he could be a stern, even brutal colonial administrator not hesitating to burn down Andamanese villages. Who would somehow offended to, quote, show them who was the master, as he put it himself, and to hang the insane son of a Chieftain, he was also personally brave, repeatedly facing down armed Andamanese war parties without flinching. So Portman is sort of the best case scenario for an officer of a brutal colonial empire, because he does seem to have at least genuinely cared about the enemies, people and their culture. He learned 12 local languages. During the time he worked there. So he was not, like, an oblivious guy. He cared about communicating with these people. Yeah, and he wrote several anthropological histories of tribes in the area that didn't include really useful information about their culture. So he was not just a guy who burned down villages, but he was a guy who burned down villages? Yeah. Unfortunately, Portman also almost certainly possessed an unquenchable desire to **** them in of the enemies islands. And since he was a good servant of the Crown, he seems to have sublimated that desire into dozens and dozens of unsettlingly ******. Photographs and detailed descriptions of their genitals, and that's what we're going to be talking about. Cool after some. None of which will contain detailed descriptions of genitals. Some of our ads are randomly slotted. If I don't read an ad, it's a random ad. Yeah, people got angry at us because like one came on for the Emirates airline. 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When we were last talking, we were talking about that Guy Portman and the we're about to start talking about who's Roddick? Photographs and detailed descriptions of the genitals of the native animates people. Sure, yeah. Let's get back into it. Who among us has not taken ****** genitalia photos in the name of science? Who among us has not committed colonialism via? Pictures of *****? Uh, by the 1890s, basically the only thing that Portman did anymore. He'd given up all the other aspects of his job, and he pretty much just took pictures of anemones. People now, not just pictures. He also described their bodies in deeply uncomfortable detail. He made a lot of money doing this. At the time, it probably looked like a scheme to pat out his salary by selling photographs, but historical perspective makes it seem like something else was at stake here. So I'd like to quote from a fabulous historical study published by Sadru Sin of Queens. College depicting Portman's photographs quote in one image a robed Portman poses regally on an improvised throne with a group of semi naked antimony standing beside him. The names of the Islanders, who are given as a group of anemones chiefs are given in the caption. All have authentic anemones names. They do not inhabit the frightening and alienating tropical jungle of the colonial imagination that savages renamed Caruso and Friday inhabited in the early days of the settlement. One man, a 35 year old named Riala, it described elsewhere in the archive as the titular. King of the animates and is said to have been given this title by the British in 1878. Portman himself was instrumental in these kinds of appointments, having installed Aboriginal men as chiefs after 1879. Several other Aboriginal men wearing white robes marked with crosses stand formally among them, but they are external to the pictured community. Identified only as staff and another image in the same file, Portman is dressed in a kind of white safari suit. He reclines on the ground, surrounded by the principal chiefs of the South Andamans, who wear nothing, and a third picture probably taken in the same session. He steps forward aggressively from the center of a line of naked Aborigines. So, again, yeah, Portman dressed to the nines. Everyone else naked. Sort of like all of these pictures. A closeted, genocidal Dan Bilzerian. That is like Yo This Is This is the life, yeah, he is doing this for the gram. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's also unsettlingly and exploitatively sexual just like the Graham just like the Graham still still tracks. Identified much of Portman's photography as quote quite conventionally ******. More specifically **********. He goes on to note that this is to be expected in the art of imperialism in India in the 1890s. So it is cool. OK, yeah, that's the best is what scholars are like. Well of course and all the British guys did this. Yeah. There was a lot of weird ********** photography and and sexualizing of native bodies done throughout the British Empire. It was a capital, a capital T. Thing yeah, so we don't precisely know that Portman was gay. There are no references in the historical record to any lovers he may have had, but we know he never married, and Sadru notes that his chosen photographic subjects are almost all male and almost always nude. Portman himself regularly praised the attractiveness of Andamanese men, writing at one point that quote, many of the men are good looking, as they have none of the thick lips, high cheekbones, and flat noses of the ***** type. So cool. What a weird dig. What a who even needs that? He's a weird dude. Wow. Yeah, here's another quote. At the center of his gaze is a particular sort of Andamanese, who is typically young, male, and muscular, whereas his photographs of heads capture equal numbers of males and females. The other images, especially those that might be described as casually posed or overwhelmingly pictures of males, few show individuals younger than 14 or older than 40, and none of those depicted as wrinkled by age or illness, even in an era where it had become. Common for British observers, including Portman, to comment on the devastation of the Andamanese by syphilis, measles and pulmonary disease. When behind his camera, Portman sought to record not that decrepitude brought on by civilization, but the beauty of a savage body that he had recuperated in the clearing. The discourse of imminent extinction provided a context, in an urgent justification, within which a vanishing aesthetic asset could be showcased and preserved. So he took a bunch of naked pictures of people and justified it by saying, well, they're all dying out, so we got to. Otherwise we won't have naked pictures of them. I mean, I guess he's right. He's right. Here's an example of the pictures. We'll have this up on the site behind the back. Yeah, that's ****. I'm not a big guy that we're like, any naked picture of someone is ****. This is specifically. Well, it seems like he's getting his rocks off. Yeah, it's like what you would imagine, like a Playgirl. Yeah. It's like if you're the National Geographic and you go to a place where people don't wear clothes, you just take pictures of them doing their thing. Yeah, exactly about that. This is a point in time in which many of the enemies do wear clothes because the British are in charge. He's not going out into the uncontacted tribes and making them take. He's getting people who live in towns. Who are Andamanese aboriginals? And he's making them strip and put on traditional jewelry, and then he's taking pictures of them because he thinks it's hot. Making nudes. He's making nudes. He's making nudes. Willingly, unwillingly forcing people to take nudes. Yeah, I don't think I wish there were saying them. That's true. But also he burns down villages that don't do what the British want. So maybe you're like before. We probably can't say no to this type of force. To being comfortable saying he forced them. Yeah, I think, I think there's it's not consent is not clear in this case. I have no problem with people taking naked pictures of whoever. If there's consent. I don't think these people can really consent because of that can't really be freely given. Yeah. Now, Portman is gross. His pictures are gross. He clearly has a lot of grossness in him. But one of the confusing and frustrating things about this sort of anthropological study is that we as students are indebted to him for providing us with crucial details about. Internet culture and in a little bit of fairness to him, it was clearly important to him that these details be preserved. So he was not pure exploitation. Sure. And I mean, we learned **** from Nazi experiments too, and that's that's also very fair to say. Yeah, that's it. I did come across some cultural details in his writings in this study that I read that I really wanted to read because I think it provides a little bit of fascinating insight into sort of the culture that was being wiped out at this point. Quote, When the Andamanese meet after a long separation, they cry this custom applying to both sexes for about half an hour and sometimes till the dusk. After they actually meet, they sit about a foot apart, or I'm not sure how far apart. It just is about apart, take no notice of each other and do not speak. Then one approaches the other. They throw their arms around each other's necks and sitting on the ground, cry demonstratively. Others join, and one may see a heap of 10 and mannys crying and howling in a way that can be heard a mile off. In the case of men and women, and particularly of husbands and wives, the man sits on the woman's legs as shown. The crying may continue for an hour and generally ends in a dance. There is by far the most healthy way to deal with that. Seems like a really healthy that I've ever heard of. A really healthy way to deal with seeing someone for the first time after a long absence sitting in their presence and, yeah, crying and making it clear. Yeah, it's kind of beautiful. But it's also like one of those things, right? It's like, this is written, it's like, oh, this is the custom. And it also equally could be this was the custom reserved for terrible tragedies. And it's just that. We have done nothing but visit terrible tragedies, all these people since we saw them. Yeah, it's impossible to know exactly the context of this because we just have Portman's recitation, but it's a tantalizing glimpse of a very complex culture that was mostly wiped out as we will continue to talk about. And again, healthier than ours in some aspects, for sure. I mean, I'm sure they did a lot of they did. They did the thing that a lot of like they killed babies and stuff like if your baby is sick, they're going to kill that baby. Like that's a pretty normal thing for tribes at that sort of technological level. Yeah, there's ugliness. They had wars. They did ****** ** ****. Like when we talk about native cultures. We shouldn't, like, idealize them either. They weren't perfect, but not worse than us. They sure as **** not worse than us. So there are a bunch of weird findings in sadru since study of Portman's writings on the enemies. He notes that Portman went to great effort to record details about the exact shape and size of these people, measuring their skulls, probably some phrenology up there and measuring their other bodily dimensions, and writing detailed descriptions of men and women. He describes 127 year old woman named BIA as very cheerful, pleasant woman, intelligent and bright, docile and not quarrelsome breath, sweet and no offensive smell from body. So how drew notes that in almost all cases, almost all of the women? Described as pleasant by Portman are also described as smelling good. Women described as mean or irritable are always described as smelling bad. The vast majority of Portman's descriptive efforts, however, took on heavily to ****** dimensions and focused on Natalia Riwa. A 44 year old man is described as very intelligent government interpreter for the North Andaman group of tribes. Fond of Gayety and dancing, violent tempered and hectoring disposition. Penis and left testicle. Normal right testicle. Small and atrophied. Very lustful go. Uh, uh. What do you what do you do with member Anthro class that well, but at some point, where did we leave lustful off on the scale? Be there somewhere it should be, right? Yeah. Portman describes another man. Why? Chella, as quote exceptionally plucky and brave, allowed me to fire at a small pot on his head with an iron pointed arrow. Very good tempered breath. Sweet, not very lustful. Penis unusually large. Both testes well formed. In the same breath he let me shoot at his head. Is ***** big? What? This is like. I mean, it's it is like a John Waters movie at a certain point. I keep bringing up quotes from and will later in this podcast, Rudyard Kipling. But that quote from the poem Mandalay about the attitude the British had about places like this where there ain't No 10 Commandments and a man can raise a thirst. There's no rules out in the colonies. You can shoot a thing off a dude's head if you want to just ask him, **** it. Ask quotes. I mean he exactly. It's like, I mean. From the other way, right? You have an arrow trained upon this, man. Can I shoot you? It's hard to make a request in that case. It's like, hey dude, I got this bow and arrow. Can I try to shoot this thing off your head? It's a pretty *** **** by the way. I'm definitely making a note of that. No. Oh, I mean, yes. Sorry, I definitely meant yes. In fact, you were. You're burning down villages that yes, it's always yes. Yeah. It's never not been. Yes. Now, Maurice Vidal Portman is an important figure in understanding what happened to John Chow, the young missionary who died on North Sentinel Island. Because in addition to being a creepy weirdo who wrote extensively about the genitalia of strangers whilst shooting arrows at their heads, he was also the first European to make contact with the Sentinelese people. But we will have to wait to tell that story until Thursday, when we have Part 2. Are you ready for Part 2? Andrew yes, that's the proper attitude to this podcast. All right, Andrew, plug some puggles before we roll. Oh, sure. Just, you know, you know this racist. Please take a listen. If you are going to be on the, you know, W North side of the West Coast of the United States in early 2019, keep an eye open for some, for some live appearances. San Francisco, we can announce. And, you know, maybe some other cities. Who knows? 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