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What you don't know about them? My guest today, Cody Johnston. Katie stole. Hello. Hi. How are you guys doing? Great. Really, really well. I'm doing fantastic. What do you guys think of my my intro? I thought it was good. Ohh, I'll reiterate the thumbs up. Yeah, yeah, that that scans well for podcast. I'm going to do it again. Physical comedy is great for podcasting. Yeah. Yeah, I was fine with your intro. Thank you. Thank you, thank it's no, it's no what's cracking my Peppers. But they can't. You gotta try stuff out. You gotta try stuff out. That's the only way you know it works. And it's also a great way to get rashes. Speaking of rashes while we're on the subject, Speaking of a rash on our collective nation, our subject for today is a fella named George Lincoln Rockwell. Have either of you all heard of George Lincoln Rockwell? Minimal. Yeah. I'm not that familiar. I would say based off the three names. He killed people. Not directly, but those are always the people who end up killing the most people. Uh, yeah, yeah. Indirect wise, that song people who don't directly kill people are the killing as people in the world. Yeah, he's got blood on his hands. Well, yes, absolutely. So near the end of February 2019, if you remember that far back, federal authorities arrested U.S. Coast Guard Lieutenant Christopher Hasson with a cache of guns and a list of liberal and leftist politicians and journalists he wanted to murder. On April 1995, Tim McVeigh detonated an enormous fertilizer bomb outside. Camera building in Oklahoma City last October, Robert Bowers walked into the Tree of Life Synagogue and murdered 11 people. Between 1995 and 2019. We have seen a couple of 100 far right terror attacks and attempted terror attacks and murders. Behind each of these attacks and each of these deaths is an individual terrorist with his or her own journey to radicalization. But there is one single man who shows up in the ideological chain of custody for every single act of right wing terror in our lifetimes, and that man is George Lincoln Rockwell. Is there we go. So excited. Excellent intro in the worst way possible y'all were when when I knew I was doing GLR what we call yeah. I knew y'all were the only possible guest for this. Appreciate that. Because that's so touching you. You also produced regular, terrified content about the the horrifying things happening in our country. And this guy makes a lot of that make more sense because he's where most of it starts. So this week's three-part episode is the longest podcast I've ever written by a couple of 1000 words. It started initially as a five part special episode. I wanted to go into detail about all the ******** behind our current wave of right wing terrorism. There's a fascinating, terrifying intellectual history there, and I think it's very important for people to know Rockwell was just going to be one part of that series. But then I wrote 13,000 words on him. So here we are. I am still going to put together A5, part audio book on all the ******** who invented right wing terror. We'll talk about that a little bit at the end of this episode, but Rockwell is special. He's the grandfather of all modern American fascists. He started the sort of fight that we're all in right now. If you consider yourself in that bad fight, it's a terribly licensed and it's a ridiculous fight. So let's get into it. Rockwell was born on March 9th, 1918 in Bloomington, IL. So like me, he's in Illinois, baby. Yeah, I see the similarities in the connections already. Yeah. I mean, he just wait now. He was the oldest of three children. Versus parents were both vaudeville performers. His dad was somewhat famous for pretending to be a doctor in a bit. That does not translate down to the decades because I can't. I've read a couple descriptions of it and I can't understand what the joke was supposed to be. But I love that kind of stuff, though. It's like, oh, you really, you literally had to be there. You had to be alive in the 20s. You had to be there for 30 years before that joke was told him, though, because I feel like that's true for all old comedy. I just does not translate. No, I was just watching a movie. I used to. Of the second Ace Ventura movie. And like, even, even 10 years past, like the last point I watched it, I was like, oh boy, a lot of this stuff just does not age, does not age. Now his dad's nickname was Doc because of the aforementioned bit where he pretended to be a doctor. And the biography I read of Rockwell for Race and Nation claims his dad was an egomaniac. Quote a nephew recalled that the sun went up and down on what he was doing. Another could not recall one instance of affection expressed by DOC towards Lincoln. Doc Rockwell lavishly entertained show business friends who journeyed from New York to Southport for a little rest and relaxation. So George's parents divorced when he was young, and so he split his time between. Jobis Hangouts with his narcissistic dad and languishing with Mom and his overbearing racist aunt. One of his cousins described that side of the family as Archie Bunker types. anti-Semitism, racism, anti Catholicism and anti Italian sentiments were all common at home, but racist talk was kept inside the family and his dad was not anti-Semitic for that fact even show business stuff, so he had a lot of Jewish friends and whatnot, so that was that. Seems this is just his gross aunt, and probably probably probably. Really, everyone was racist by modern standards back then. But yeah, I'm. I mean, you know what props for them to to keeping it inside the house, keeping it in the family, although they they did not, because it boiled over the most, the most it possibly could have. Like this leading, right? Right. I'm trying to yeah, I'm forgetting where the story is going. Although I should note that his family expressed nothing but shock and shame at the beliefs Rockwell would peddle as an adult. So for whatever that's worth. We go. Way to go talk, way to go, Doc Rockwell. As a teenager, George Lincoln Rockwell worked as a waiter in a tourist hotel on the coast. He angered easily. That's a big surprise and would regularly get revenge on female patrons who he thought had annoyed or slighted him in some way. His favorite method of doing this was rubbing a syrup soaked rag on doorknobs, pocketbook handles, light switches, and anything the women might touch. What a little imp. What what a insult. And like, already what they all are. They are. I mean, it's so resentful of being slighted by random women that he works for most of what you've said, except for the stuff about the comedy that doesn't translate is very applicable to to the modern men that I know. Except for these present. I mean, have you touched the door handle that I've been around lately? Because I got a syrup soaked rag in my pocket at all times? Yeah, I don't do that anymore. After I slided you that one time. After you slided me that one time? Exactly. Exactly. I mean, to be honest, most of the what I use the rag for now is in case there's like a pancake emergency. Sure, sure, sure. Obviously just smart. Anyway, just good planning. My favorite jam band pancake emergency. When they played at Red Rocks, that was. I love their song, the syrup sensations that one day of that year when they played, it's Red Rocks. Solid jam band humor in this Nazi podcast, yeah. George Rockwell Lincoln Rockwell grew up mean and tall, into a Lantern jawed, 6 foot 4 inch adult. He had a commanding presence and an almost pathological need to impress or intimidate everyone he met. His high school yearbook said this about him, quote without question. Lincoln is the loudest talker on the campus, the originator of more weird theories than anyone else, and the academy's outstanding artist. We have every assurance of his being successful because of his incomparable personality and originality. Originality is important. That's good. That's good. You can say a lot of things for George Lincoln Rockwell, most of them terrible. But he was an original thinker. I think you'll agree with that by the time we come around. I have no issues with this guy I like. I like his originality. You like the cut of this here on board with this guy? Well, let's keep cutting into the gym. I don't know what a job is. George went to Brown University, but he did not enjoy it. He was irritated by the progressive ideals of his professors. What little political correctness existed in American universities in 1938. Was too much for Rockwell. These PC thugs, and they don't fit directly onto the black people. You you piece a police culture. Ohh, get out of here. Yeah, you know how it is. According to his biography, he later claimed he never bought the idea of human equality. OK, OK, yeah, it's not for sale, man. Sorry, we just think people are people. It's not a product. You're not. No, you're not selling that to George to GLR. He got a job at the school paper, and he drew bad political cartoons and wrote worse columns. A lot of his work was killed by his editors before even being published. Do you have any other political cartoons? Right there. But I feel like if you just take a Ben Garrison would like, that's exactly what I'm thinking. I was like, I want to see like this proto Ben Garrison. I bet that's who he cites as the inspiration. It's got to be, it's got to be. He will not be the only person now. Rockwell School work was not much better. At one point, he got an assignment to write about the factors that led to criminal and delinquent behavior and young people. Rather than doing research and writing a scholarly article, Rockwell wrote essentially a speculative sci-fi fable about scientists in Africa. That was the title. Scientists in America. According to this fable he wrote, these scientists were quote studying why ants acted like ants. They searched around until they found a lot of anthills, observed them for many years, and finally came up with the discovery that when Ant eggs were hatched in tunnels and a certain kind of hill in Africa and grew up among six legged creatures called ants, they themselves are so affected by the strong environment that they became themselves ants and waved their antenna like ants, scurried around aimlessly like ants, look like ants and were ants. He's saying black people are dumb because they don't. They have to study ants to know that they're ants. That's the joke. That's the whole joke. It's a funny joke. I hate it. It's terrible. No, it's a funny joke. Rule of threes is is really on display in this God, Jorge. This is the least racist thing will be. It's like waiting. Like, what's talking about culture? Like, what's where is he going? No, no, that's the whole. That's the whole point. Yeah. In spite of his clear talent for storytelling, Rockwell did not excel in college. He never graduated, and he wound up enlisting in the United States Navy slightly. Before we got into World War Two, he became a pilot and flew combat missions in Guadalcanal as well as, like, he flew. He flew combat missions in both the Pacific and the Atlantic Theaters, and he seems to have been a pretty good pilot during the war. Like he. Was very active, flew a lot of missions, like a lot of dangerous stuff, although that did not stop him from lying about his service. Later he would spend the rest of his life claiming that he'd sank to Japanese submarines. This means George Lincoln Rockwell and L Ron Hubbard both picked the exact same lie to tell about their service in World War Two. I don't know what to do with that. Right. You just you just stored away for later. Just something that you you track, you know? And Sunday, the dots will connect the dots. There's two of them. I'm waiting for three. You need a third one to really take shape. Waiting for Donald Trump to talk about the submarine. Which one came first? You know, like, who said it first? I think it must have been right around the same time because they were both starting to be on the public scene in the 50s. So this sort of like general, like, I wonder if it's like for a few years. It's a bunch of people like, Oh yeah. There's probably a lot of people that made that claim. They were both in the Navy and my God, I can't stop thinking about what if it's some air base in the middle of World War Two? The two of them wound up having a beer at some point. I was just thinking that I I like to think that it's true. That's a great one act play. What act? You write it, we make it. I'm playing. Ohh **** we will make that. I think that's a great idea. OK, to be continued on that to be continued conversation. They're like talking, like getting along and getting to know each other in the background. You hear like Someone Like You just take 2 submarines. That's a great idea. It's a great idea. It's like watches over those. Like they don't even realize they're like absorbing. It sinks in there. Yeah. Ohh God, OK. Anyway, here's what Rockwell looked like. Here's what Rockwell looked like during the war. Who wants to describe him? Oh, Katie, just the way that. Oh, OK. Honestly, he looked a little bit like my cousin David. He really does no shade on your cousin. Abbey, this? Yes. Oh, God really does with that mustache. And he's got that. He's got some impressive brow work going on. And then nice furrowed gaze. Yeah. Cody, you take a whack. God, David, I would say he looks like if Farva joined the military, right. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like he gets a little more fit. He like, he gets very, very serious, man. Now. But it's totally farva. You know, he looks like someone who who wipes her up on handles. Yeah, he does look like a man who wipes syrup on handles. Yeah, I hate to say it, but he will get way better looking as the story progresses. Yeah, he he he. Craft the mustache was an error. Mustache was a mistake. That's just one mistake. He's like about all the things I ever did. I'm sorry about the mustache general. I'd say mustaches are a mistake. You know my dad is a mustache. Sorry, Dad, that's gonna throw a lot of shade your family. I was just thinking that nose, regretting it. So sorry. Must be by ****** aunt. Apologies of the stole family. After the war, Rachel decided to try his hand at art with the dream of working in advertising. He was accepted by the Pratt School of Design in New York City in 1948, the second year, ROPPO won $1000 first prize in a national illustration contest. His winning piece was an anti smoking ad for the American Cancer Society. Which is ironic because for the rest of his life Rockwell was seldom photographed without a corncob pipe in his mouth. Man with principles. So do I like advertising? No. Cigarettes are what's bad for you. Yeah. Because the corncob pipe that that's that fills up your Q zone better than better than a cigarette. Oh yeah. I've only read medical textbooks from the late 1940s. But according to those, the Q zone is really critical to keep filled with smoke. The Q zone, the Q zone, that's what you got to keep smoke filled. Is it shaped like a Q or is it is that like, stand for quality, quality, quality, quality, quality. You filled with more smoke and that makes the. Quality of all the air in your body better. Ohh yeah that's it. Makes perfect sense anyway, sponsors Phillip Morris have been. I would totally sell cigarettes. Would you? Everyone everyone knows at this point? Sure. Well, right. If I if I had that option, I'd be like, yeah, I'll sell these cigarettes. But I get to say, by the way, they're gonna kill you and they're bad. That that would be my whole. I'm getting. I'm getting paid to say that these are available. You want to die sooner because the world is a nightmare. Think they will age you quickly? Lydia, for decades about us. Not me, baby. I'm telling you the truth. I'll sell you honest poison. Smoke them. Die. Speaking of honest poison, George Lincoln Rockwell opened up an advertising agency with two partners in Portland, ME. This business came to an end with the Korean War started in Rockwell was recalled to active duty. He didn't fight this time, though. Instead, he trained people at the Coronado Air base and eventually got involved in politics. His chosen candidates were Senator Joseph McCarthy and General Douglas MacArthur. Yeah, he loved both men for their violent resistance to the spread of communism, with which he agreed fervently. In 1951, deep in this anti communist obsession, Rockwell decided to read the autobiography of the Greatest Anti communist of them All, Adolph Hitler. He would later claim that reading Mein Kampf was the most powerful moment of his spiritual life. Quote word after word, sentence after sentence, stabbed into the darkness like lightning, bolts of revelation tearing and ripping away the cobwebs of more than 30 years of darkness, brilliantly illuminating the heretofore. Obscure reasons for the world's madness. I hate him so much. Yeah. OK, big Hitler, stand here. Yeah, alright. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To put that in a little bit of context, China had gone communist in 1949 and by 1951 the Russians had officially got the bomb. The Korean War was seen, particularly by conservatives like Rockwell, as a crucial stand against the violent spread of communism over the globe. Rockwell didn't jump straight into being a Nazi. His first political goal was to organize a rally urging Douglas MacArthur to run for president. MacArthur, by the way, was the guy who got fired by Truman for trying to nuke China. Cool guy. Tough guy, good good fire, good fire, all. Solid fire. Yeah. Also the guy who made well, he's debatable how well he did in the Korean War. We we could argue about that a lot now. According to Rockwell, he was stopped from renting a hall in San Diego from MacArthur rally when a local pro MacArthur activist told him that the Jews hated MacArthur and would not let such a rally happen. Hmm. What did he do about that? He did not develop positive feelings towards Jewish American citizens. Mein Kampf fan going to do about it? That's what we're yeah. After some time in Coronado, Rockwell was sent back to Rhode Island on Navy business. His wife picked him up at the airport and, according to Rockwell, told him that in his absence, she'd learned to be, quote independent and no longer wanted to sleep with him. We have no way of knowing if this is how the conversation actually went down, of course. I know it did not. Rockwood later used this story to claim that his first wife, Judy, had been inflicted by what he called the common insanity of modern education, which made women feel their lives were lacking if they became homemakers rather than sought out careers. Rockwell claims he realized his wife had basically been ruined by modernity and that the marriage was over. This is. Great. Everything you're saying. Like, Yep, Yep. That adds up. Yeah, I've seen. I I know those people. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know prominent figures who would relate to this guy. Yeah, this is this is the guy who invented a lot of that unfortunate. Her name was Judy. What? I feel like you feel like maybe that, like, pushed him over the edge. You're not a fan of the name Judy. It's just like it rhymes with my aunt's name is Judy. My mom's name is. I mean, if you're if you're like a guy who, like, suddenly very resentful of Jews and then you're like, Oh my God. I was like, by the way, that name she was like, really coming down on team. The name Judy named Judy's fine, if you're not this guy if you're not. Makes sense though, yeah, I could see how he might have some issues with that. I withdraw my connection now, thankfully. Rockwell was immediately sent to Iceland next, and during a party in Reykjavik he met Margaret Thora Halgrimson, a 23 year old niece of the Icelandic ambassador. He started flirting with her in the eventually struck up a relationship. In 1953 he asked his wife formally for a divorce and she was happy to agree to that. He married Halgrimson soon after. After his second stint with the Navy was done, Rockwell would turn to the United States, Halgrimson in tow. They moved to DC where he put together a magazine. The wives of US servicemen called US Lady. It was not a success. Rockwell became convinced, however, that it was his mission to create a popular new Conservative newspaper that could galvanise what he called the splintered and squabbling right wing into an effective political movement. Again, you might say his goal was to unite the right. OK, yeah, yeah. He pitched his idea to the American Federation of Conservative Organizations, giving it the title the Conservative Times. Tragically, he was unable to find investors for this Shirley. Fantastic idea. Eventually, Rockwell met a guy named Harold Aerosmith, the scion of a wealthy family who had become obsessed with pouring over the Library of Congress's microfilms to find evidence of a Jewish communist conspiracy to overthrow the nation. Since no actual scholarly publications were willing to publish his findings, Aerosmith went to Rockwell and basically said if he helped me get my theories out there, I'll pay to print the **** load of propaganda. So hyper familiar too. Yeah, so everybody's like, if you print my bench and stuff, I'll pay you money. It gets bad ******** but before we cover what happens next on the amazing journey of George Lincoln Rockwell. Hey, Speaking of which, Katie, can we do a free plug for your water bottle? Because I am, I am loving the look of that water bottle. What is that? It's called a. It's like a SLM. I'm assuming that's for slim. It's got like a little wood grain. My favorite part is that it has a little straw that pops up. It has a little straw that pops up. If you want a bottle that looks like it's made of wood, buy you a slim. They've got lots of different colors. Lovely. And if you want another fine product and or service. Which is commerce units in here. 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I went in, I had my consultation. They told me I was a good candidate and then I went back in a couple of days later. But a Bing bada boom, you know, my eyes were perfect. So LASIK Plus is a leader in laser vision correction in the United States. They have over 20 years in the industry and more than two million treatments performed. If you want to start your LASIK plus journey, you can get $1000 off when treated in September. That's 500 per eye. So visit my LASIK offer. Dot com to schedule your free consultation now. We're back. Back in not the USSR, because Rockwell was terrified of communism. Yeah, he wouldn't. He would. He would not. He would not have liked that song. I don't know. Probably wouldn't like anything they said. Like most rock'n'roll probably wouldn't like their manager. Like Rocky Raccoon or something might have liked, Rocky Raccoon would not have liked the Rolling Stone song paint it black. No, no, that would not have been. Or brown sugar. Or you do not want to play brown sugar to George Lincoln Rockwell. Oddly enough, big fan of hey Jude. That was the side for back in the USSR, I believe. OK, Rockwell took a shine to this rich guy, Aerosmith, immediately calling him the most violent Jew hater he'd ever met, which in Nazi circles was quite a compliment. He agreed to work on the project if Aerosmith would provide a home for his new wife and her children. Aerosmith agreed on the grounds that their project must use the name. He'd settled on the National Committee to Free America from Jewish domination. You gotta read Rockwell did not like the name. But agreed to do it for the money? Yeah. On July 27th, 1958, the National Committee officially announced itself to the world with a picket of the White House. Rockwell printed out large placards covered in slogans. Don't fight another war to save the Jews he was talking about. Like Israel at this point and the wars they were fighting. Nasser, the president of Egypt has jailed his Reds, but Jews lie that he is red. Communism is Jewish. One of the placards just said the slur. ****. Sure, Yep. I mean, if you're gonna do a thing that sucks, why not? Why not? We're gonna do a thing that sucks. Rockwell marched with a small number of young racists, he gathered. Almost no one came to see them. The crowd that did show up was a mix of journalists and ADL photographers. Anti defamation league. The National committee marched, and then Rockwell took everyone to a local motel to drink beer. Hotel motel, alright, that is specified in the biography. To be clear, it was not a hotel, it was a motel. There were there were cars within feet of them. Everybody had to pay for their own. Everybody had to pay for their own drinks. The beds had penny slots. Those windows were right next to each other. Tragically, this would prove to be the high watermark for the National Committee, because Rockwell had actually sort of screwed over his wealthy benefactor Aerosmith. He'd printed only a few of the leaflets showcasing Aerosmith's research, and used most of the committee's resources to print off his own propaganda for a completely different organization called the World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists, or wolphins. These losers? My God. I mean it. Tragically, he gets better at the branding. Yeah, wolphins. It's a process you have to understand. Neo Nazis didn't exist yet. What sounds like a cute little pup name, right? You got weapons. Look at these little weapons. You're right. No, branding is important. And like, yeah, you're building up. Unite the right. We're like, we're all together. We're, we're, we're we're one big family. Not you. Not you. Not you. One thing. We are one big we're one actually much smaller family than the family other people want want to exist. On October 12th, 1958, a racist name, Wallace Allen, detonated 50 sticks of dynamite inside the Hebrew Benevolent Congregation Synagogue in Atlanta. Thankfully, he did this in the dead of night and no one was killed. But suspicion almost immediately turned to George Lincoln Rockwell, because when police searched Allen's home they found letters between the bomber and Rockwell. One of Rockwell's letters from July mentioned a big blast, although he claimed this was a reference to a Woodman's. Kidding, mark. She had planned. And not any terrorist attack party like a like a blast in like, we're gonna have a blast, we're gonna have a blast. It's going to be a big blast. It's going to be a big 50. Stick of dynamite size. Blast, blast. Rockwell was not charged with any crime in the wake of the bombing, but that attack marked the beginning of a national conversation that we're all still having. What do we do with people who inspire terrorism but don't actively urge it in a legally actionable way? What do we do about that? We don't know. Last December, I lectured a room full of aspiring and current federal law enforcement people about this, and nobody seemed to have a real clear answer. Oh, good. Oh, good to hear more about that at some point. Yeah, happy to. Happy to talk about that now. The Rabbi of the Hebrew Benevolent Congregation Synagogue was a dude named Jacob Rothschild, which is an unfortunate last name to have if you are one of America's earliest white advocates for school integration and civil rights. He was a major major, like. Early civil rights advocate and the members of his synagogue were unusually active in being white people who are like, we should all be less ****** to black people. Good advice. Good advice. Why they also got bombed. Bad result of good advice. Yeah, that's how it goes. Thanks Bellina one died in a Pulitzer Prize winning editorial for the Atlanta Constitution. Ralph McGill called the bombing quote the harvest of defiance of courts and the encouragement of citizens to defy law. On the part of many southern politicians. It is not possible to preach. Lawlessness and restrict it. To be sure, none said Go Bomb a Jewish temple or a school, but let it be understood that when leadership in high places in any degree fails to support constituted authority, it opens the gates to all those who wish to take the law into their hands. Yup. Agree. Would have been great if people have listened back in 1958, why would we listen to what things happened in the past that might be directly related to? Why would we think about that? Rachel had been a fringe figure before the bombing. After it, he was completely abandoned by the mainstream American right. Aerosmith abandoned him too, and his naval reserve status was cancelled in December. This left Rockwell destitute, without even the money to keep the lights on. His 1959 dawned. Woodman's only had nine fully initiated members, with 12 more waiting to attain full membership. Status. I bet you guys are wondering what it takes to become a full member of what I was just thinking that you were thinking about that. You get you 2, Cody. OK, well, there's a ceremony. There's a ceremony. It's described in for race and nation as quote pricking the cheek with a razor blade dripping a large drop of blood on the border of a swastika flag, and swearing allegiance to the party with the trooper's oath. All these ******* nerd, these ******* nerds go away with this stuff that happens. I'm going to read the troopers. Yeah, I got it. In the presence of the great spirit of the universe all capitalized and my loyal party comrades all capitalized, I hereby all letters capitalized, irrevocably pledged to Adolf Hitler, also capitalized the philosophical leader of the white man's fight for idealistic and scientific world order against the atheistic and materialistic forces of Marxism and racial suicide. I pledge my reverence and respect to the commander of Adolf Hitler's national socialist movement. I pledge my faith, my courage, and my willing obedience. To my party comrades throughout the world, I pledge my absolute loyalty, even unto death. To myself as a leader of the white man's fight, I pledge a life of clean and manly honor. To the United States of America, I pledge my loyalty and my careful compliance with its constitution and laws until those which are unjust can be legally changed by winning the hearts of the people. To my ignorant fellow white man, who will hate and persecute me because they have been so cruelly brainwashed, I pledge my patience and my love. To the traitors of my race and nation. I pledge swift and ruthless. Justice, hmm? That is a cool oath for a great bunch of really cool guys. It's almost like, what? Even if you take out the race stuff, it's like, what unites the right is they all fear the same things and they all, they all, like, really, really want the same kind of thing. It's almost like it is really civilized, and it's an ASMR here. This is what history does to me. It's just really frustrating. Yep, troopers were given code names which had to be related to their real names, but also make them sound like total ********. Recruit named Burchard became Trooper Oak because Birchard sounded sort of like Birch, but George Lincoln Rockwell didn't think Birch was a ****** enough tree. About the oak also, it's like that George W Bush thing where it's like he sees you eating a burger, so he calls you burger. No, you're alright. I don't know, Tim Apple. You know what? I'm not going to go out that that's that's funny. It is funny. If I was the President, that's how I would refer to every business leader. Well, it's super. It's super hilarious and and cool and great. If he did it on purpose, yeah, but it's just his broken brain. I would call Jeff Bezos Jeff O packages. That would be, you know, Jeff Bookstore over here, Jimmy Books. Jeff Bezos. God, it would be great if he called like Mattis, Jim, Jim, Marines. Yeah, David army over here. These are great name, great names. Also, it's crazy that we actually had a guy in that job who's literal name was almost David Army. It was, it was, it was. It was even sillier. It would have worked out so well for him. That's amazing. Wolphins carried out several picketing actions, which were basically protests in public areas where Rockwell and his storm troopers would carry incredibly racist signs attacking the Jews or black people. They also published anti-Semitic pamphlets and books with titles like Battle Call, Fight on Your Feet with the World, Union of Free Enterprise, Socialist or live on your knees with the Jews, OK? Yeah, great at titles. I mean, battle calls a fine title, but that subtitle not clicking, whatever. All these stories whenever tell stories like this. And then there's like a title that has, like, the word juice in it. There's always, like, implied. Like, you put a little stank on it and, like, it's always there. You can always feel it. You can even even just reading it just the way the rest of the sentence constructed, like how they, how they, how they wrote it. Like, man, I know how you're. I know you're hearing this word when you write it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I know how you're saying it in your head as you typed it. Now, it's important to note that woofers was not yet. Totally Nazi party. At least not explicitly. You know that that oath was a private. OK, troopers. OK, so you just mean, like, they weren't like, by the way, we're Nazis. Swirling around it, I mean, they're calling them national Socialists, but they were up to that point, avoiding being super explicit about the Nazi thing. I mean, nationalism and socialism, those are two things. Gonna do and Rockwell did not consider himself a fascist. He said he wanted an authoritarian Republic, which is totally different from fascism. Don't know that many fascists that want to call themselves fascists. Fascist, yeah, he said. Fascism got in the way of free enterprise. Now, while Hitler had been a racial nationalist, Rockwell sought to spread what he called International racism. He believed that millions of Americans and Europeans were, quote, only a synapse away from discovering that they were national socialists and never knew it, because they have never been allowed to know what National Socialism is. OK, maybe. Yeah, he he felt that most conservatives were really national socialists. They were just scared of the word itself because of all the bad press the original Nazis had received for some unexplainable reason. Refresh it got bad rap media. The media loves to stir up controversy. They just liberal media can't stop attacking us for a couple of more than 10 million dead and death camps. Couple of more than 10 million, 20 million killed on the Russian front. It's just, you know. Listen to media. You kill 30 or 40 or 50 million people and you get liberal media sudden. Now, Rockwell knew that his first step towards making National socialism palatable to the general public was to convince them that the Holocaust wasn't real. This was revolutionary. At the time, there was no such thing as organized Holocaust denial. In 1959, it did not exist. 10s of thousands of Americans had seen the death camps for themselves. In person, everyone had watched the newsreel footage from camps liberated by the American Army I. That was like one of the things Eisenhower had done as soon as we found was like, oh, everybody's seeing this. Yeah, like this has like, the world has this real thing. Yeah, yeah. So that people don't do what Rockwell's about to do, right? Like 1959, like 59. There are 30 year old Holocaust survivor. To start like, what, 16 year old Holocaust survivors? Yeah, God, yeah. So in order to accomplish his goals, George Lincoln Rockwell had to invent the idea of Holocaust denial. Here's how for race and Nation describes that process. Quote to establish a Holocaust was a hoax theme, Rockwell fabricated a story for a seedy mince pulp magazine called Sir. That! The story quote by a former corporal in the US as told to master Sergeant Lou core, which is Rockwell spelled backwards, phonetically related how the Nazis conducted vivisection on Jewish concentration camp inmates. The article was accepted and Rockwell received $75 in payment when it was published. The editors used concentration camp photos alongside his story to enhance its appeal to Rockwell's way of thinking. Since the publisher had used bogus photos for a bogus story, the Holocaust must be a Jewish fabrication. Rockwell was to use the magazine article as proof of a Holocaust hoax for the rest of his life. OK, yeah, there's what do you what do you say to that? Invented. He invented Holocaust and by like. Pretending to, like, fake it by writing a fake story. Real stuff that Nazis cut up Jewish prisoners in the Holocaust, right? Some of the doctors who did it admitted it later. He just wrote a fake article. A fake article that could be, like, debunked to be like, see, they're lying about the thing that was actually, Oh my God. What? And he got paid 75 bucks. You got paid 75 bucks? Wow. What a. You could argue that modern Holocaust deniers, I mean, they're bad people, but maybe they're just. Leave what they what they're saying. But this is something that what's so evil about it is he knows that he fought in World War Two. Yeah, right. Like, like doing that in the late 50s. Because then, yeah, you have people now who are like, oh, it's been like 60 years later after this conspiracy theory even started. So it makes sense that you can fall down that rabbit hole and, like, get convinced you could talk to 25 year olds with numbers on their arms right at this point. But yeah, what a bad person. I'm. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to change my mind about this George guy. Really? Yeah. On board for the 1st 6 pages. But then yeah, this is too much. This would be the first great innovation in Rockwell's life as the most influential racist in American history. But it was not enough to save to the terribly named Wootens. Without the backing of their millionaire patron and without any kind of mass popularity whatsoever, Rockwell's dream of the National Socialist Party quickly fizzled out. By June of 1959, he had only three troopers left and the lease was up on their headquarters. Rockwell left the United States for Iceland, where his wife and kids. Fled because it turns out they didn't like being with the guy who was trying to revitalize national socialism less than 20 years after his second wife. Yeah, when he arrived in Reykjavik, his wife wanted nothing to do with him. The police escorted him from her home. He got ********* wasted and cried for a while. And then he decided that he must use the pain of his emotional loss to galvanized him into being an even greater fighter for the cause of white people who, let me tell you, we're really hurting. In 1959, he would later say that his wife leaving him had given him a quote. Priceless armor of fearlessness. Man, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. What doesn't kill us makes us Nazis. Yeah, sometimes. George Lincoln Rockwell. We returned to the United States with his new armor of fearlessness and began making the changes he believed would be necessary to cause National socialism to catch fire in the American heartland. The first step, he decided, was to stop calling it National Socialism. You might expect that this would be his first move towards embracing a more moderate label for his organization, but Rockwell actually went the opposite direction and started calling himself a Nazi. Here we go, counter intuitive in the oven. Yeah, ohh my gosh alright. His strategic considerations were based entirely around what would gain him the most public renown. A bunch of men wearing swastikas calling themselves Nazis and Goose stepping around at demonstrations would gain more notoriety than a few weirdos ranting about National socialism and making this call. Rockwell was consciously pulling inspiration from a passage in Mein Kampf quote from Hitler. Whether they laugh or swear at us, whether they present us as fools or as criminals, the main thing is that they mention us. That they occupy themselves with us again and again, and that gradually, in the eyes of the workers, we appear actually as that power with which alone one has to reckon at the time. There it is, there it is, there's that. Oh, there's yet another just piece of the frustrating puzzle in which we all live, which we all live so like. Paid attention is good attention. I know. Attention is currency. Maybe attention is currency and he would have loved Twitter. Maybe that's George Lincoln. Rockwell would have dominated. Yes, he would have. He would have probably eventually gotten banned and then used that to sort of push forth. He would have then screenshot his name trending and then posted it on Instagram. And that's good no matter what. Joke. But I think he's smarter than that. I think he knowing he would have used it well, I think he would have used it way better. I don't think he would have been like, **** I don't think he would have done in this day 1000 times better than Richard Spencer, Jacob Wall, or any of the failed. Yeah, I mean, they're they're like dopes that have stumbled into what they are. This guy is like, he's a genius, right? He's a terrible genius. He's an intelligent man. He's just ******* stupid. Just a monster. But in October 1959, George Lincoln Rockwell officially formed the American Nazi Party. This action he gave birth to the concept of Neo Nazism, so then at Holocaust denial and Neo Nazism within a year of each other. Heidi Barack, who tracks hate groups for the Southern Poverty Law Center, said this in an interview with the W AMU Radio quote. He was the first person after World War Two and the knowledge of the Holocaust became known and the horrors that had happened under Hitler's regime to take an overtly pro Hitler position. Really, he's responsible for creating Neo Nazism in the United States. It's entirely possible that without Rockwell, Nazism would be dead as a political concept, at least in the United States. That is debatable. What isn't debatable is the foundational role Rockwell played in the concepts behind racist organizing in this country and worldwide. On Christmas Day 1959, a synagogue in Cologne, Germany was defaced with swastikas and anti-Semitic graffiti. This sparked a rash of attacks on synagogues across Europe. 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I I could tell you were, like, shaking from Rockwell withdrawals. Yeah, I was. I felt lost during that ad break. I know. That's what. Nazism. During the 1960 election, George Lincoln Rockwell caused controversy by publicly endorsing Richard Nixon. This move would be echoed decades later by the decisions of former KKK leader David Duke and racist ******* Richard Spencer to endorse Donald Trump in the 2016 election. To his credit, Nixon immediately told ABC I completely repudiate him and all the evil he represents. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you, Nixon. Thanks, Nixon, for not waffling on whether or not to disavow a literal Nazi. Yeah. Also thanks for the EPA. Yeah. And opening up trade with China. Good guy Nixon not. Thank you for extending the Vietnam War thousands of additional deaths. But it wasn't wasn't a 0 sum thing also. Racist stuff. At least he's yeah, let's stop talking about Nixon. We'll do the 9 parter on another day. Rockwell was not just a blind ideological hate monger, he was a serious racist thinker with serious racist goals and a fairly logical way of looking at the world. He developed a set of four phases that he believed were necessary for his party and its racist ideas to gain power in America. These rules were based not just on what Hitler had done, but on these strategies successfully employed by communist political movements in the east. Phase one become known. This includes getting in the headlines, rallies and promotional material. Phase two develop leadership cadres teaching about white rights, the anti white movement, miscegenation and party tactics. Phase three, mass recruitment. This includes public relations toning down the party in order to become more mainstream. Recasting the party is legitimate, instigating tensions that increase party membership, IE racial riots. And phase four taking of power mass action. A crisis situation leads to rapid expansion. Paramilitary substrata of the movement begins to take control by force and using. Direct confrontations with the government and the security apparatus of the state. I assume you saw those chat logs from a identity, identity, identity European direct descendant of the American Nazi Party, as are literally all of the fascist groups. We actively trying to infiltrate the Republican Party and influence it. And he is the founding father of American like active fast. Not sure if you're going to get to that or not, but like flashed in my brain on the 3rd episode is just about what he inspired. Cannot wait. Be horrible. I hate it. I'm sad Rockwell was, above all else, a creative political thinker. On June 25th, 1961, he took nine members of his new revitalized American Nazi Party to a Nation of Islam rally in Washington DC. The Nazis marched right into the Uline Arena, outnumbered an 800 to one, and took their place among the otherwise almost entirely black audience. They were not there to protest, but to show support. The Nation of Islam leader Elijah Muhammad and his right hand man Malcolm X were, at the time, black separatists. Malcolm X's speech that night was literally titled. Separation or death. Despite repeated shocking statements of racism, Rockwell also regularly expressed admiration for Malcolm X. He backed the Nation of Islam because he saw them as having the same essential goal as the A&P racial separation of black and white people. At one point during his speech, Malcolm X admonished the white members of the audience, telling them they should really donate to the Nation of Islam if they supported its cause. Rockwell was among the first to whip out a $20 bill and hand it over. Life photographer Eve Arnold, who was there to shoot the event, took a picture of this. She was Jewish. Norman Rockwell saw her photographing him. He yelled. All make a bar of soap out of you, she replied. As long as it is in a lampshade. Solid rejoin. What a girl, what a girl. That all right? Yeah. Yeah. That's a good that's a good comeback. I just locked eyes with all the women in the room and we were all, like, nodding. Yeah. The Nation of Islam event was great PR for Rockwell. Esquire magazine attacked him in his ideas, but couldn't avoid describing him in weirdly positive tones how much taller he is than Hitler, and how much better looking and how much better looking. To be fair, they weren't wrong. But at this point, he'd shaved his mustache and he looked a lot. I mean, look at that. He's the guy in the middle and OK, yeah, it's an improvement. Yeah, who does he look like to me? He's got some cheekbones going a little bit Cary Grant in there a little bit Cary Grant. But Cary Grant, he is much taller than Hitler. Ohh. I mean, this isn't a side by side between him and Hitler, but you can just, you can tell. I mean, yeah, this the he looks like a leading man in the ruins. The actually he doesn't look like a leading man. He looks like the villain, but like. Yeah. But he's like, kind of in the way that you're like Billy Zane. Yeah. Part of me was like, go with Billy Zane. You know, he's got a hell of a job line. Yeah. So, Cody. Yes. I'm really excited. Yes. Yes. The American Nazi Party was chronically low on funds the entire time Rockwell ran it. His fundraising strategy then relied entirely on ginning up controversy in his public appearances and using that to solicit donations. He had a variety of ways of accomplishing this, but his most reliable tactic was getting invited to speak at. Ecologists. Ohh, interesting. There would inevitably be protests and often fight him, which would lead to publicity that would convince Hidden Neo Nazis to mail him checks. Interesting, I thought, well, those protesters seem like they're real Nazis. There's protesters they're trying to shut down. Speech. Yeah, yeah. In San Diego, the Committee for Student Action invited Rockwell to speak at the State College. He gave a speech to a group of 3000 students, introducing himself by saying if I had wanted trouble, I could have worn my uniform with my Nazi arm bands and the whole works. Believe me, I know how to stir people up if I want to. Rockwell then railed against homosexuality in California. He talked about seeing men holding hands in the streets of Hollywood and told the students if there's one thing I'd rather guess than communists, it's queers. At 1.22 year old Ed Cherry, a Jewish student and hero, took the stage and demanded Rockwell hand him the microphone, and Rockwell refused. Cherry punched him in the face repeatedly and broke his sunglasses. And the rest of us? Not him. Yeah, punch a Nazi. The rest of the speech was canceled. Next, Rockwell and his men were scheduled to give a talk to journalists at the school newspaper during the Rock Walk from the auditorium to the papers, offices that were surrounded by students and pelted with eggs. Here's how for race and Nation described what he said when he finally talked to the baby journalists. Rockwell. Told the journalism students that there was a conspiracy to discourage his speaking invitations. The attack by Cherry was part of a plan to keep other colleges from inviting him. He put the attack in perspective, calling it a minor skirmish. Such violence hurt his cause in the short run, but helped it in the long run because people finally realize what is happening that's ruining this country. It's terrorism. In other words, there is no free speech for a man who preaches what I do. They try to kill you. I'm so mad. Rockwell would speak at dozens of colleges over the course of his career. We'll talk about this more in Part 2, but I can't overstate how critical they were for the A&P's financial independence and how he literally invented the blueprint that every right wing grifter uses today. And we just keep coming back to that school. Speak at a college, people yell and throw stuff at me, and then I'll get more money, and then I'll be the guy who got shouted out at the school for speaking the truth. Just Nazis. Because that's the real. That's the real situation. Did he debate kids and how, Oh yeah, you did love debating. Now, these are good change my mind. God. The hundreds of dollars brought in by the Honorariums paid by colleges, literally kept Rockwell's lights on. Soon there were and PHQ buildings in Virginia, California, and Texas. The actual number of stormtroopers was rarely higher than, you know, a few dozen who maybe like 100 or two at the most. But the presence of these buildings gave Rockwell's movement St. It also provided an opportunity for him to make the news and thus solicit more donations. AP Headquarters buildings were bedecked with signs that said stuff like white Man fight, smash, the Black Revolution, now the Black Revolution, to go to the same schools as everyone. Use the same water revolution revolutionary idea there. Those of you who know me and my relationship with law enforcement know that I am not exactly a big fan of the FBI. Be honest, I have not forgiven them for the Anarchist Exclusion Act of 1918. But I am above all else, a fair man, and for all of his many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many. Many, many, many, many flaws J Edgar Hoover was not on the wrong side of this particular issue. The Bureau instantly recognized Rockwell as a threat. His file described him as, quote, a professional bigot, a con man, a malcontent, and a chronic failure who will stop at nothing to gain notoriety and even power. He is a man whose tongue and pen are jagged weapons of slow destruction, a shrewd small mind inflated into a national nuisance by undeserved publicity. He is a braggart and a bully who tries to delude his maladjusted followers into believing they are crusaders. Ross had gone. Yeah, pretty good writing for the FBI, yeah. They did not, however, write him off as a harmless prank because the FBI knew something about Nazis. I really wish the modern FBI would catch on to quote those smaller numbers and influence the A&P is a dangerous organization of misfits who are psychologically and physically capable of perpetrating acts of violence. If this organization is ever in a position to do so. These American Nazis, like the Nazis of Hitler's Germany, will follow through with their obnoxious objectives of liquidating all whom they consider inferior. It is well to remember that in his early days, Adolf Hitler, like Rockwell, was ridiculed and scorned. We would do well to heed the American Nazi Party and to remember that history is replete with incidents where a nucleus of an organization and the right conditions merged to shake the foundations of the world. Stronger word than obnoxious, but God, that's like good, good job, good job, the FBI being aware of history and how things happen, being aware of 20 years ago, right? Right? Oh, that's. I really wish any figure, anyone at all with any amount of power would say something like that. Wouldn't that be nice? Wouldn't that be great? But they could instead they could like target. They could yell at people for yelling at people for speaking at college campuses and then target like left wing activists and and ignore that like all the organizations in the military being sort of infiltrated by white supremacists. Would that be important? No, I'm just. I'm just saying stuff out loud. It doesn't matter. It's not like there are any incidences where, say, of a military combat veteran built a £6000 bomb and destroyed a federal building and killed 168 people. If something like that happened, I'd say you should be OK. OK, well, I'll keep my eyes open for something like that, but in the meantime, I'm going to go take a couple of naps. Perfect. Just like our national security apparatus. Interesting. Well done. The FBI report on Rockwell included summaries of the A&P's Major. Publications quote the Rockwell report, which appears monthly or every two months, is a pseudo newspaper in which Rockwell comments on and makes predictions regarding national and international occurrences, lashes out at hecklers and enemies, and discusses A&P business. The Stormtrooper, a bimonthly magazine, contains articles regarding aspects of national and international Nazism, and features articles containing scurrilous squibs about Jews and *******. Scurrilous squibs really like the writing shops of the old time FBI alliteration. Much more colorful there. It's good. It's good stuff. Trying to go. Also a little bit of position. Definitely would have had a podcast. Oh my God. Yeah, so would Hitler. Hitler, yeah, it wouldn't be podcast, just like you have a radio show. I think it would probably get cancelled and somehow they, you know, I mean, I think you'd probably have taken Tucker Carlson's job, to be honest, because he's way smarter, maybe selling gold and yeah, so much gold. Yeah, yeah, it also included. The FBI report also included descriptions of the AMP's pamphlets, which are just about the most hatefully racist things that I can imagine. The 1960s FBI agents writing about them were shocked by the level of racism. 1960, the same group that was urging Martin Luther King to kill himself. We're shocked by the racism of the amp stuff. Quote leaflets, pamphlets, brochures, throwaway stickers and other types of easily disseminated messages are the more common types of A&P propaganda. 1 repugnant pamphlet disseminated by the party advertises a brotherhood inward talk dictionary. They did not use the phrase inward, compiled by the A&P as a public service for parents whose children are attending the integrated schools. There is even a section of this handy Brotherhood dictionary explaining how to be tactful about interracial love. Inside this pamphlet is a drawing of a familiarization kit whose contents include such odious items as. Selected rocks carefully balanced and waited for breaking out school windows, pack of marijuana, reefer, cigarettes for smoking at interracial ****** etcetera. Switchblade, knife, lightning fast, extra long blade for stabbing students and Spanish fly. Powerful aphrodisiac for slipping into girlfriend's whiskey or wine. Great, great. All the tools that a person needs. You know, with like the KKK stuff. It was racist, but it was so dumb and Batty that you could laugh at like the Cool Coast camp a little bit. Yeah. It's nothing. Yeah, it's it's just horrible. So, Cody, I would like you to describe this next pamphlet, which the FBI provided as an example of the A&P's typical humor which they put and I put in quotation. Humor. I love humor. Please don't actually read these. Oh my God. Yeah, don't read that. I will be putting most of this stuff up on the site. I'm not going to put the stuff with slurs on it up on the site. I'll put the things where you can find it. But yeah, I don't. Yeah. Yeah. We don't need to go too much into this. Well, a I mean, it's only words. The very first word is a word I will not say. It's the N word. It's very nice. ! It's it's getting people's attention saying, hey, hey, listen, look at this, look at this. You too can be a Jew. !! It's easy! It's fun. Insult the white folks, make more money, love the white women. And then there's a picture of a book called how to be a Jew. And then I think you've gotten it across. Yeah, there's a lot of writing on there. Wait, let me finish the joke. Hold on. I'm going to read it. OK. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. That's me reacting to the funny joke. Is that a full number of paws that deserves awful? Out of my sight. I'm going to burn this script after reading. Yeah. I mean, this can't feel good to type up. No, no, it did not this. That's hideous. I do think it's necessary for everyone to hear, because I want to contrast those publications with how Rockwell presented himself. Just like memes. It's like the memes. Yeah. I want to contrast those publications that we've just gone through with how Rockwell presented himself when he was in front of cameras and microphones addressing students. I'm going to play you an excerpt from a speech that Rockwell gave very close to here at UCLA in 1967. Sophie. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr Raff, and let me first say how grateful I am for this opportunity to speak on the academic community. It's the only opportunity left to me in this country to speak in a way that the American people get to hear and judge me for themselves. In every other form, every other place, I attempt to speak out in the street. The people who loudest claim to love free speech and demand free speech for themselves usually insist on using physical violence to try to stop me from enjoying my free speech. Oh my God. And when I try to speak in the in the streets, I need troops, the only place where I can speak. I can't even hire a hole. When I hire a hole, they usually threaten the owner. There's bomb threats and so forth. So this is the last refuge of free speech left in the country, and I'm sorry to say, it is usually accorded. By the liberals. And I must confess, I admire their courage and their sincerity in granting this opportunity to me. Brief liberal Congrats, liberals, classical classic liberals. Let's be fair. That is classic liberal classic liberals right there. Literal Nazis speak at your college? Wow. This clip was from you say, decades ago, 1960. Interesting how this century in the past I was wondering why the quality of the the audio wasn't as it wasn't that I would have thought we were listening to last weekend. No, not that. No. There was, of course, ample racism in Rockwell's lectures and speeches to colleges, but nothing so hateful, crass and crude as the things in A&P literature. It was a shallow veil, but one that fooled a number of Americans. Now, that is all I have to say for today. For part one. OK, come back on Thursday or Wednesday. Actually, for Part 2, we're going to talk about the Jewish community's reaction to the American Nazi Party and the first attempts by activists, you might call them anti fascists, to respond to Rockwell's truly innovative. Controlling it's going to be just a whole bunch of stuff that seems eerily familiar despite being more than half a century old. TuneIn can't wait, you guys got some plegables? Well, actually I I want to. I want to do a quick thing first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So as I mentioned at the start, this was originally going to be a part of like a five part audio book in the origins of American right wing terrorism. I'm now doing that audio book is a totally separate thing because Rockwell round up being a full thing itself. So if you go to go fund me and look up the war on everyone. That's the working title of the audio book. Yeah. Title, yeah. Yeah. Go fund me the war on everyone. If you want to donate some money, you know, that audio book will come out. And the money that I make for it I will use to, you know, further the conflict journalism work, the stuff that I've done and in Portland and over in DC on the East Coast, like going to these rallies. If we get enough, I might even be able to go somewhere like, you know, Rojava again or do more of the, like, foreign conflict reporting. So you're going to definitely get an audio book and you'll get more stuff to in the future. Go fund me the war on everyone now. You guys wanna plug your plug cables? Yeah, check us out online. Got online? Yeah. We don't have what you just said. No, but we've got a thing that produces stuff every week. YouTube Channel is somewhere new. Yeah, Google some more news in YouTube. Our show, basically. Weekly we do stuff there. We also have a podcast called even more news. We talk about the news. It's all on. You can go to the apple, you know, wherever you want to go. I would say our patreon.com/somemorenews. That's where like our patrons go to support us. Then make sure, yeah, we do those kind of also like. Makes more episodes. We try to give as much as we can, but if you guys give a lot and produce a ton of really good stuff, thank you. Takes a lot. So some of the best news that you can get at this moment is American with jokes. I do have a question. Would you ever let, say, the commander of the American Nazi Party speak on your podcast? Because I thought you loved free speech and if you don't let Nazis have a platform you don't love free speech. I'd have to do a pre interview. I think I would. Yeah, with my fist. With my fist hot dude that I would probably do something like this maybe, where I sort of talk about that person and delve into their ideology and sort of represent their them accurately. But it seems like you've done a bunch of them. Yeah, well, some more news. Patreon the YouTube yeah, we're on Twitter. Doctor. Mr Cody. Still, I'm I write OK on Twitter, where you can find me yelling about Nazis even more. If that's something you like, that's what you're. You can find us on the Internet this podcast at ******* pod. You can also find us on Instagram, AKA the gram, by the same name. 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