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You can also pre-order it in physical or in Kindle form from Amazon or pretty much wherever books are sold. So please Google, AKA Press after the revolution, or find an indie bookstore in your area and pre-order it. You'll get a signed copy and you'll make me very happy. Man yeah, yeah, yeah. Ohh how how we all this is behind the dollop. *******. Dollop the ********. This is those those dollop ********. So I don't know. What do you guys think of all of the characters y'all have covered? Who do you think Kissinger gets along with best? Oh my God, better. I mean, I mean, that's a tough one. That judge in Texas with the bear, I mean, the judge in Texas with the bear, he definitely gets along with. Like there's definitely guys like, you know, the guys who did the filibustering Walker and those guys who just love to just take over other countries and kill many people. There's not, we've never experienced this level of casualty. No. Yeah, we haven't quite a few. This is I mean, you know, like there are evil. It's it's the spray of your evil that is so remarkable about this the. Ability to have your finger on this button with this level of darkness is a I don't know it's it's a little you know, I I wouldn't say it's, you know, again. I mean we've covered evil ************* but I don't think they've been able to scatter shot in the way that you know, Kissinger's. I mean it's a rare talent at a rare time on a rare team. I I would put John Peter Zune. Poen, who was the? East of the Dutch colony guy, the East India Dutch colony guy, he did a lot of ******* killing. Yeah. And he definitely had the same sort of attitude. Very casual about. Yeah. There's been a lot of people. Yeah. The the killing because we're white Americans. Yeah. Or just white people. Just, you know, for for land has been it's a theme. It's Andrew Jackson. I would put up there with this Jackson he's. He's, he's at that level of like monstrous national leader who believes in a ****** ** thing, like in terms of his death, well, Andrew Jackson and his and his white supremacy, Hitler and his Hitler stuff, you know, Mao and some of the weird things he believed about crop rotation or like what not. He's at that level of like death toll. But he doesn't believe in anything. Like he's not trying to do with thing he's not like, he's not like attempting. So he's not a doctor of society. I guess, yeah, I guess that's the weirdest part of him cause yeah, this, this sort of death count usually comes out of ideology. Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to get at. Yeah. Imagine if his childhood affected him, what he would do. Yeah, well, that might have an impact, right? Imagine if that had actually impacted him in any way. Yeah. And it it yeah, that's the, that's the. It's so ****** ** that like it's ******* crazy again. We we keep getting back to like, Walter from the Big Lebowski logic, but like, at least. Those other war criminals had an ethos. Yeah, yes, yeah. You, you, you, baby. You could negotiate or talk down or at least there would be like an angle at least. Like, Ohh, you are a, you are a person. Like not to morally compare him negatively to Hitler because I for the record folks, Hitler's worse, you know? Then basically, yeah. But it there's at least you can grasp onto a level of understanding with Hitler because it's like, well, I believe in things and I even believe in things that like, I think it would be OK to like use violence in order to. To to because of those things that I believe, I think there are situations that justify violence. And those are based on things that I believe about morality. And Hitler had things that he believed about morality that he felt justified, violent violence. And so you can grapple at least with what must have been going on in the man's head when he did some of the terrible things he did. I cannot get into the head of a man who is willing to do this to keep a gig, right? Yeah, it's for a gig. Yeah, it's for a gig that he didn't even need. He didn't even need this job. Now he's he's almost as bad as Doctor Phil. Yeah. I mean, yes, that's a little bit hyperbolic, Dave, but I don't think, I don't think that's hyperbole. Dr Phillion levels of evil. And also just the the dumb, the idea that 60 minutes, like, was like, take the keys, hang, have the keys, Hank. There you go. Yeah. You know, you know, nobody. Yeah. Just the run annual normalization. It's like, now. Yeah, when it comes to the folks who will defend Henry Kissinger or even call him a great statesman. And those folks do exist. I have raised some of their books. When you get to those people, there are generally a couple of achievements that they will trumpet is like, well, you have to give him, you know these things, right? God come. And they sound impressive on paper. In 1973, he and North Vietnam's Lee Duthu won the Nobel Peace Prize for their work in the negotiations that became the Paris Peace Accords. Right. Winning a Nobel Prize for stopping the Vietnam War. Impressive sounding on paper, if you don't think about the fact that he extended the Vietnam War like help to, you know, right. It was a part of that he did negotiate the first strategic arms limitation. 3D and anti ballistic missile treaty with the Soviet Union. Those are good things. But yeah he yeah the whole thing is he loved he. It would be like nukes are great. It's like congratulating Sully Sullenberger if he threw the geese into the Jack. They've been breeding geese and that exactly. And he was making bang noises to scare him into the plane when he landed on the Hudson. Yeah. They were like, wow, what an amazing achievement. Yeah. And yeah, it's one of those things like, yeah, he he got the part and part of, like, the arms reductions that he secured with the Soviet Union are less impressive than they sound. I was just talking in the last episode about that documentary command and control. One of the points it makes is that, like these Atlas 2 missiles which nearly killed half of the people on the East Coast through radioactive fallout. Were obsolete and not effective and recognized as not being useful, but they were kept in the arsenal not because we needed them, but because we were going to have a treaty with the Soviets soon and we wanted to have something we could give up that wouldn't actually cost us anything. God, like that. Like it's that kind of ****. Like, that's all of the ******* yeah. He ******* got rid of spent fuel rods, basically. Yeah, yeah. And garbage. Yeah. And he does this. He helps renegotiate reductions in nuclear arms after pushing the missile gap myth for the JFK. Straight. He did help pass an International Convention against Biological Weapons, which is cool if you don't think too much about the defoliants that he ordered spread out across Southeast Asia. This we need to stop. People like Henry Kissinger, we have to stop. They must be stopped. We must stop me. This is the only way to appease me. He had a role in the Helsinki Final Act, Article 10, which committed nations on both sides of the Cold War to quote, respect human rights and fundamental freedoms, including the freedom of thought, conscience, religion or belief for all, without distinction of race. Yeah, he's literally the guy who's in a room and he's like, we should kill everyone. And then he walks out and comes back in another door and goes. Killing is bad. They're killing must stop. It's like when when OJ was, like, deal with me, OJ was like, I'm gonna find the real killer. Yes, yes. We gotta find this guy. He's still out there. Henry Kissinger doesn't go to DC anymore because he might run into the man who ordered the carpet bombing of Lao. That would be awkward. We are all trying to find the guy who did this. I know we're not gonna leave till we find out which *** ** * ***** is behind this now. There is, however, one huge Titanic achievement that even the most hardened critics have to give Kissinger. He restored diplomatic relations between the United States and China. Now this is a huge deal, no matter how you slice it. For a brief primer, China had them a big old civil war between the communists who won and the Nationalists who we backed, who we were called. Like, you know. Democrats, Republicans, whatever, like called democratic forces. They had, you know them, a dictator as it always is. He was a dude named Chiang Kai Shek. And yeah, now wins. In 1949, Chiang Kai Shek and his forces take all the gold they can carry and they flee to Taiwan. And for the next 30 years the United States refuses to acknowledge the legitimacy of the Chinese state and deal with it directly. And one of the most unhinged decisions in the history of US foreign policy, decades of presidents pretend Taiwan is the real China, like Taiwan has a permanent. Beat on the the the UN Security Council. That is China's seat, but Taiwan is. You can look on a map. Itty bitty. It's small. It's a slow smaller. It is somewhat smaller than actual China. It's it's like what we're doing. It's like what we're doing in Venezuela. No, that guys. It's like, yeah, like that guy is the president. No. Right. Like, yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah. And it's one of those things, like, you don't have to be a fan of Mao to recognize this as stupid. Like, Mao was in the head of a government that is this basically a whole continent and you're just pretending he's not, and that's nuts. Emperor has no land. Yeah. It's craziness. It's stupid. Yeah. And in fairness, again, because we're about to talk about, like, Kissinger had nothing to do with this, right? Kissinger is not why we refuse to recognize the existence of the Chinese Government. This is a dumb thing that when he comes into power, he and Nixon are both very astutely recognized as a dumb thing, and they don't want this to continue. And it is. It is hard to overstate how dangerous this state of affairs is for one reason, after Stalin dies in 1953. Relations between the USSR and mouse China steadily decline in 1964, the year China conducts their first successful nuclear tests. Diplomatic relations breakdown between both Communist nations. So now you have three massive empires, all of whom are armed with nukes, none of whom are directly talking to each other. This is a bad situation and Kissinger just recognize how dangerous the status quo is. Now in 1969 China and the Soviet Union have a series of border skirmishes. Their soldiers are shooting at each other, Moscow threatens to start dropping nukes and for a time the Chinese government conducts its affairs from underground bunkers. So again, very reasonable that Nixon and Kissinger, like we should probably have some way to ******* call these people on the *** **** phone right? Like this seems bad, let's just get a phone. Let's get a *******. Phone. You would think it would be that simple, Dave, but we're gonna talk for about an hour and 10 minutes about how it's not. So by the time 1971 comes around, Nixon and Kissinger were also both looking for a major diplomatic coup that could distract from the fact that they hadn't quite managed to end that whole Vietnam War thing and had, in fact, made it all very much worse. There's also some rational self-interest in here. You know, whatever else you can say about them. I don't think either of these men want to die. And they recognize like, well, this could cause a nuclear war that ends all life on Earth, including us. We should probably deal with this. Yeah. Yeah. They finally realized that life is action has purpose once it's there. Yeah. It's also one of those. This is getting a little off topic, but like people talk about you, you will see at least on the right people say like, well, you know, if the nationalists had won the Chinese Civil War, a lot less people would have died. And it's like, well, the specific things Mao did that killed a lot of people wouldn't have been done. But if Chiang Kai Shek is in charge of China and like while China is communist, they almost get in a nuclear fight with the USSR. Do you think nation like right wing, Chiang Kai Shek LED China is less likely to have a nuclear fight with the Soviet Union the hard. This version B, yeah. What is it like if they're not on the same ideological side? Yeah. People don't talk a lot about the fact that the USSR and Communist China nearly nearly nuked each other just willingly. SSR, so. And also Mao killed landlords. So are those people well, fair? Yeah, some of them are. We're landlords. It's not the landlords were complaining about, it's the, you know, the people who didn't have grain. But that's a story for a completely different set of days. At this point in time, you've got two countries that should three countries that should all be talking on the basis that they all individually have the ability to end all life on Earth. And they're not. And and Kissinger is like, you know what? I can get in here, you know, I can make this work. I can make this work. And also it'll help us win an election. So it just so happens that 1971 is also a time in which China is willing to sit down with the United States. Mao wants US help negotiating with the Soviets, which is very strange and like the the does not make a lot of, yeah, I can't talk to these guys. I can talk to, you know, I needed someone. Who else can't talk to these guys? Nixon. Yeah. You love communists. Get in here. Yeah. You know, it's just the the you've got like the way that the Cold War is portrayed, from the 1000 yard view to people like watching the propaganda of whatever state. And then you've got, like, now being like, hey, Nixon, I need your help to deal with these Soviets. I need a rational partner. And you're drunk, you know, you know who's going to get me went cinch. Me, Richard, milhouse. Nixon. The election in 72 Mousey Dong. That's so crazy. It is. It is weird politics in this. It's almost like it's almost like there's only there's only three people in the world. Yes, yes. So this is a, you know, Nixon, yeah, once once Nixon's very much down to talk with China. But it is not that simple because since the diplomatic situation has been dumb for so very long, there aren't like US diplomats in China that we can like send a message through, right? Like you literally don't have those ties. So the US does have ways of communicating with the Chinese Government. They're through back channels though, because you can't admit publicly that you're doing it because Taiwan is your ally and Taiwan doesn't want to acknowledge that the Chinese government is legitimate government. Very dumb. One of the back channels is through the leader of Communist Romania, Nicolai Chechu Ohboy, and the other great guy, Ohh, Nikolai. Nikolai is not the bad guy of this story. I mean that when chacha schools you're hero, things are not good. Not your hero, but let's call him a benign force. In this specific instance, when is your straight man? Yeah. The other is through the military dictator of Pakistan, General Agha Mohammad Yahya Khan. Now, we should probably talk a little bit of history here. In 1947, the British gave up ruling over the Indian subcontinent. Finally, as a rule, whenever colonial powers leave their former possessions, they attempted to set up states based on their pre-existing alliances and racial biases. This is why we have, for example, the entire modern map of the Middle East, in this case of the Indian subcontinent. What had once been a colony was split into India and Pakistan. India is obviously Hindu majority in Pakistan as a Muslim majority nation. Now, if you know your English colonialists, you know they're not very good at maps. So the Brits, divvying up the subcontinent, decide that Pakistan should include two huge chunks of land separated by more than 1000 miles of India. Westpac Kistan is the Pakistan we know and love today, right? Classic Pakistan, right? Like the yeah, E Pakistan is like the new coke of Pakistan, except for now it's Bangladesh, right? But at the time, Bangladesh is each Pakistan, and there's just like a whole ******** of India in between the two, which is there's like a line that Pakistani people will say the time. Like East and West, Pakistan are only united by religion. The English language and Pakistan Airlines and by Far Pakistan Airlines is the strongest of the three. Cool of England once again. I mean, just great plan, guys. Yeah. Really? Like. Yeah. What do you say we put a blindfold on and then tried to pin the tail on this donkey? And the the fact that Indian partition, that England Partitions India at all, is a humanitarian crisis on an incomprehensible scale. As many as 2 million people died, often as the result of horrific racial or religious violence. And Henry Kissinger's hearing that. Like, hold on. I'm getting hard. I can do better. That's nothing, baby. I can beat those rookie numbers. Where where do I send congratulations quote? 10 to 20 millionaire displaced. But even though East and West Pakistan are supposed to be united by faith, there's like, massive ethnic divides, right? Like, they're not. The fact that they're all ostensibly Muslim does not mean anything because, like, they're completely different parts of the world, completely different chunks of history. Right? And at least America learns this lesson. Yes, thankfully, we we get this, right? You know, by the time we get into Pakistan, we're done with the stupid stuff. We're faking the vaccine drive in order to steal people's blood. That's right. That's a cheeky the good guys. Yeah, the good guys are back. I know how to fix this. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, here's the Smithsonian magazine kind of laying out the relationship between East and West Pakistan by the time Kissinger and Nixon take office. With most of the ruling elite having immigrated westward from India, W Pakistan was chosen as the nation's political center. Between 1947 and 1970, E Pakistan had only 25% of the country's industrial investments and 30% of its imports. Despite producing 59% of the country's exports, W Pakistani elites saw their eastern countrymen as culturally and ethnically inferior and an attempt to make. Urdu, the national language less than 10% of the population of East Pakistan had a working knowledge of Urdu was seen as further proof that E Pakistan's interests would be ignored by the government. Making matters worse, the power for both powerful Bola cyclone hit E Bangladesh in November of 1970, killing 300,000 people. Despite having more resources at their disposal, W Pakistan offered a sluggish response to the disaster. As French journalist Paul Dreyfus said of the situation over the years, W Pakistan behaved like a poorly raised, egotistical guest, devouring the best dishes and leaving nothing but. Scraps and leftovers for East Pakistan. Hmm. Well, it's not cool. It's not great. It's not great. And Pakistan's military is what's in charge, right? It's a military dictatorship. They run everything and they are hyper focused on India, who is their primary geopolitical rival. In 1965, Pakistan attempts to invade Kashmir, sparking a vicious conflict. And I'm not giving you the whole. Detail of the conflict between India and Pakistan. Please don't take this as me throwing all of the blame on one side or the other. This is just like the barest Cliffs notes because we have a lot to cover in this episode. And the US, it's worth noting, had been selling arms to both countries in 1960. What? Yeah, you know, very disappointing America. Yeah. Strange. Come on. So, gosh, our history is so different. LBJ's administration was forced by public outcry as a result of this to issue an arms embargo on both. Nations Pakistan saw the embargo as unfairly harming them and as a result there was bad blood among the high command towards the Democratic Johnson administration. By the time Kissinger and Nixon are in the White House, the President of Pakistan is again this guy, Yahya Khan. We'll just call him Yaya because it's fun to say. Yeah, fun to say. He took power in March of 1969 by forcing out another general in instituting martial law, Kissinger runs once wrote of him. Yaya is tough, direct, and with a good sense of humor. He talks in a very clipped way, is a splendid product of Sandhurst and effects a sort of social naivete. But it's probably much more complicated than this now. Sandhurst is like the. British Royal Military Academy. It's like a broadly speaking British West Point. Yaya affected an English air. He carried like a swagger stick. He dresses like he's a British officer. He acts like he's a British officer, right? He is also a raging alcoholic, one Pakistani politician noted. He starts with cognac for breakfast and continues drinking throughout the day night, often finding him in a sodden state. Nice. So he's always on spring break. Yeah, he's just. Just a drunk dude who always carries a stick for hitting horses. Yeah, it's very. You going to Conway? Yeah. I I mean, Churchill drink a ******* too, right? I mean, yes, absolutely. It's just something about it. SK was on meth for a decent chunk of his early presidency. Ohh. Wow. So great. It's where we're like when we point out that a guy like Yaya is drunk, it is not to contrast him with Western leaders. Yeah, why don't you just point out the ones who aren't drunk? I think, I think. His name? The guy who came after Nixon but not right after Carter. Probably pretty sober in the White House. Yeah, but his brother was making his brother really is making Billy was like, I'll tell you what, I'll drink with Jim and no problem. Ohh Billy. Billy Carter should have been the president and we would have gotten some **** done. Honestly. Would have been good. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that different trajectory. Let's see what head cow bad could it be? Honestly? **** it, let's dance. Hmm. In 1970 Yaya decides to hold an election which is meant to be more for show than anything else, right? It's this thing you do because he's Pakistan is definitely India is a neutral country. They're not on the side of the Soviet Union or the US and the stupid Cold War thing, they're very intelligently. Like what does it benefit us to pick one sided like **** that stuff. But they also because India's got much more of a socialist. Actually, early on is much more of a socialist government. There's a lot of distrust from them in the United States and Pakistan really leans on that to be buddy. Buddy with the United States more. And one of the ways is part of, like, his attempts to get closer and closer to the US because he wants arms. Like everybody who gets buddy, buddy with the US yeah, Yaya decides to hold an election because we love seeing people have elections. We don't really care how they go, but we like seeing them, you know? Yeah, right. It's sport. It's sport, yeah. So he's allowed. He's has this election. His plan is to, like, basically rig it so that, you know, it doesn't mean anything, it doesn't take any power away from the military. But yaya's not good at anything. This is an important thing to know. He's really bad at everything he does. And that breakfast cognac had anything to do with this problem? It might have been OK, just a question. So this election gets out of his hands immediately. E Pakistan is much larger than W Pakistan. And while W Pakistan's votes are split between parties, like, there's a bunch of different conflicting political parties, nearly everyone in East Pakistan. Gets in line behind the same party, the Awami League. They're big thing is they want autonomy from West Pakistan, you know, and they're very angry at like the fact that they're getting ****** over by the West. So the the West which is doing the ******* over has a bunch of minor **** they're quibbling over. The east is just united behind. Let's stop getting ****** over. And as a result they get a **** load of people elected in this massive block and they come to it's enough that they will completely dominate electoral like the the Parliament of Pakistan because of like. Well, this election goes for them. Yeah. Yeah. Does not like this. And rather than allowing the newly elected assembly to sit, he cancels their first meeting and declares martial law. Nice. Yeah. Riots follow the leader of the Awami League, a guy named Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. I apologize for what is surely a mispronunciation declared a civil disobedience movement. It was into this volatile situation that Henry Kissinger stepped in the spring of 1971. Oh God. Now he and Nixon had pretty good relations with W Pakistan's government, which is at this point, you know, just yayah. They were loathe to trust India since it was non aligned. Nixon also was very racist and hated the fact that India's democracy was popular among Americans while the country maintained close ties with the USSR, he once told Yaya. Quote, There is a psychosis in this country about India. Now, a big part of Nixon's hatred of India is that it's led by a woman, Indira Gandhi. Oh my God, Oh yeah, we'll be talking more about that in a second. Yaya, on the other hand, is one of the few people on planet Earth that Richard Nixon comes to consider as a friend. One of Nixon's one of Kissinger's buddies. Yeah, they're both drunk ********. They don't remember the friendship, but God, was it important to the two. One of Kissinger's aides later said of the situation. They liked him. He was a soldier. He had style. He was kind of a jaunty guy this this aid. Hodgkinson admits that Yaya was not very smart, but says that for Nixon and Kissinger, he was a man's man. He wasn't some woman running a country. Right. It sounds like we're talking about is how people talk about Yeltsin. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's a man's man as he sees the Secret Service is tracking him down drunk in the middle of DC yeah, that was Yeltsin, right. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who, like, was passed out on the plane? I forget. He was supposed to meet and he was like, pass that on the plane. And they were like, Boris. Boris. He's like, go **** you self. No, no, no, it's Boris. None if right. Look, if if if we had kept every world leader after that point to the standards of drunkenness that Yeltsin set, we wouldn't be having this war right now. I'll tell you that much. No, we might have had other wars. Well, Nixon would wake up in the middle of the night too, and he'd be like, drop the nuke, you know, and then be like, ohh, buddy. Yeah, like the next day. I don't remember what I said. They're like, thank God. Yeah, we we we need to institute a mandatory drink minimum for all elected leaders in this country. 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This is not a Nixon miniseries, but in order to talk about the friendship, the deep and abiding love that the two men had, there is an incredible paragraph from the book The Blood Telegram by Gary Bass that I'm going to read now. Despite all his global FaceTime, Nixon was a solitary, awkward, reclusive man, Kissinger, who could not bring himself to say that he was fond of the president, once famously asked. Can you imagine what this man would have been had somebody loved him? Oh my God, that's coming from Kissinger. That's coming from Kissinger. Ohh, that's the saddest thing. I can imagine Henry Kissinger being like nobody really. If only someone had loved this man. Have you ever met anyone who had the black or heart? Can you imagine? Nixon's only true friend was Bebe Rebozo, a Florida banker, he said. It doesn't come natural to me to be a buddy, buddy boy, even HR Haldeman, the White House chief of staff, worried that the boss was too much in his own head and once tried to find the president a friend tracking down an oil man whom Nixon had reportedly liked in his Los Angeles days and installing him in a bogus White House chief. OK, by the way, listen, listen, listen, listen. The movie needs to be written. People. It's like driving Miss Daisy, but with a body count. Yeah. It's. I love you. Yeah, it's. I love you, man. With war crimes. Yeah. OK, so, so I'm James Franco. Is someone in this movie? So I'm, I'm gonna I'm gonna work in the White House, but I can't act like I'm there to meet him, even though that's my whole thing is. That's right. So yeah. So I'm just good at so So what? So I feel like try to get in with him. Just drink with him and eat pineapple and whatever he wants to do, just do it. He's gonna he's gonna wanna put weird things in pineapple. He's gonna get really drunk and cry on your shoulder. He's gonna bomb several Southeast Asian you guys. Talking about sorry, I don't. There's nothing, buddy. OK, who who's this fella? Ohh, I'd like to look at your face. Ohg. My name is Bobby and I. Hello, Bobby. Sorry. My, my pineapple. And you're welcome. And my for lunch. I have pineapple and cottage cheese every day and it's it's it's just got out of the microwave meal was absolutely the best lunch. You listen too. That's all I eat. Well, yeah, in between. In between. Just guzzling vodka. That's generally. What I have am I on candid camera or something you guys ******* around are you talking about. I mean I just my heart is set but I feel I need to lay down. I'm sorry Ohh God you're great. You're my favorite president and he was so good. Thank you for killing so many people if your HR Haldeman right. How do you recognize that you are trying to make play dates for a man it's bombing a legally multiple nations and not go democracy and all politics is a sham. I must go down in flames. Take everyone out around me, because that is the only justice that can be achieved is like, Nixon belongs in the bubble that the good witch and the Wizard of Oz lives in. Yeah, like, he's on that level of it's like at some point you have to wake up and be like, OK, look, these guys are bombing the **** out of country, and my goal is to find the president a buddy. Yeah. Yeah. I have to get him a friend. I'm looking. I'm trying to get him a friend. He might do something crazy. If he doesn't have it, he might become unhinged. We're a little worried. Ohh God. Like crazy. I just, it's great. It's just it's just like you have a president who doesn't have a friend. Like that's what really even President doesn't have a friend. And that's a big part of why, when it comes to deciding who should be the US intermediary to talk with Mao, Yaya wins out over chesco because Nixon likes. Yeah, you know, that's that's about that's a big part of it, not the whole reason, but that's a big part of it now. And again, let's just let's remind everybody Chesky was great, so I can't believe you got past flawless, flawless man. So by the way, great death, if we are going to talk about pretty good punishing deaths, pretty good punishing death a lot more. I I'll, I'll go so far as to say most of the people we name in these episodes could have handled the chow chesco. Yeah, absolutely. Wouldn't have been a bad way for him to go out. Yeah. So when it comes time to decide, yeah. So anyway, they they they go with. Yeah. Yeah. Now by 1971 again, spring of 71 is when all of this political stuff with E Pakistan is coming to head. These protests are happening. You know, things are on the brink there of kind of like a civil conflict. Kissinger has been the center of U.S. policy for three years at this point, right? US foreign policy. And folks in DC by 71 are amazed at the degree to which he has centralized power, his junior Southeast Asia aide Sam Hoskinson recalled. The power was there, he was gathering it up. You felt like you were at the political center of the universe, he and the president. That was where the decisions were made. What sounds like a democracy to me, baby. And you know what? Instead of getting away from that, let's just replicate it forever. Yeah, let's just do versions of this forever, but with people who are, well, not. Yeah, let's just do versions of this forever. I'm not even going to try to quantify it. Yeah. At age 48, Kissinger was new enough to power that he was noted at the time as being extremely jealous of anyone who might be seen as a rival. He focused obsessively on pleasing Nixon. Henry himself had no particular biases against India or Indian politicians, at least not compared to Nixon. But when he saw how racist his boss was, he knuckled down and found his inner bigot. He was successful enough that Nixon said of him. Henry is my least pathological Pro India lover around here. God, good work Henry. You did it buddy. You won. You won the worst thing. In late 1970, Kissinger and Yaya began to make plans for a brokered secret meeting between the United States and China as a thank you for his help. In October of 1970, Yaya got to visit the White House in person, where Nixon agreed to sell. Weapons to his country again. Now, this is illegal because there's an arms embargo which does not get lifted, but they decide we'll just do it. It'll be a limited violation of, I believe that there was a loophole for BFF's. Yeah, we got drunk with me. Born in cognac. Quote from the blood telegram yeah, yeah. Got a reward for his efforts in late 19 in late October 1970, when he met Nixon in the Oval Office at the White House and their last meeting before the crisis erupted. Nixon began to sell weapons to Yaya again. And what was officially billed as a one time exception to the US arms embargo imposed on both India and Pakistan in 1965? It was the kind of exception that demolishes the rule. That embargo had already been eroding under under Johnson, but now Yaya secured a moderately big haul, a harbinger of much larger ones. Likely to come. The promised weapons included 6F-104 fighter planes, 7B57 bombers, and 300 armored personnel carriers. You wanna guess what's going to be done with the weapons we send them? Nothing. Yep, that's right. It's like episodes done alright. Well, I had fun. Uh in March of 1971 Mujibur who is the he's like the the guy, the east Pakistani political leader, right? Who runs this party that wins the elections. He meets with Yaya and DACA, which is the capital of East Pakistan, in an attempt to reach an agreement over the elections Yaya had just decided to ignore. At first, it felt like an agreement was hurting electoral votes. So at first yayas like, hey, we settled things. Great. And then the very next day, he has Mujibur arrested and sends 60,000 soldiers into E Pakistan. No, actually I say sinzan. These guys have been slowly infiltrating the country for weeks by air because you have to, like, fly him in, right? They can't just, like, drive anywhere because there's India in between the two. They embarked on an operation called Searchlight. And I'm going to quote now from an article in The New Yorker firing squads spread out across E Pakistan, sometimes assisted by local collaborators from Islamist. Groups that had been humiliated in the elections in the countryside where the armed resistance was strongest, the Pakistani military burned and strafed villages, killing thousands and turning many more into refugees. Hindus, who composed more than 10% of the population were targeted, their unwillingness ascertained by a quick inspection. Underneath their clothing, 10s of thousands of women were raped in a campaign of terror. Bengalis also murdered and raped Urdu speaking Muslims, whom they suspected of being 5th columnists for West Pakistan Archer blood. the US Consul general in Dhaka, among others, reported the slaughter of professors. Students at Dhaka University an attempt to silence the intellectual class who had eloquently articulated Bengali grievances. So Archer blood is in the blood. Telegram really goes into detail about this guy. One of the very few cases of a powerful state department of a State Department official with some power who's like a genuinely good person. Blood works all over for the State Department evil name. He does have the worst. Like, right, like a good guy should be doing things. Yeah, just like you should shoot fire arrows. He has opportunities to be in, like what are considered more prestigious postings, including Greece. But he doesn't wanna be in Greece. Because it's a CIA backed dictatorship at this point. And Ben Gal, you know, becomes Bangladesh is like, he feels like I can do something there, right? It's this place that has a lot of like legitimate problems, but also there's this like burgeoning democratic movement and people are like taking. And he, he's renowned in the area for like being incredibly social with Bengalis. You know, like his kids make friends with local children who live around. They invite them into their home and have slumber parties. Like he's just like a like a nice person, right. And you're not going to rise to you. I hear who wants that guy blood? Sends a telegram to Nixon and Kissinger. You know, Dave, when we tweeted about this, you asked, will there be blood? And I I said there was going to be a blood telegram. This is what that is. In the blood telegram, Archer blood attacks the Nixon administration for their deafening silence towards the violence in Bangladesh and moral bankruptcy in the face of what he termed a genocide. And this gets signed by every diplomatic official who's in, who's in Dhaka. Who's in Dhaka? This enrages Nixon, and Kissinger soothed his boss by saying that console in DACA doesn't have the strongest nerves. Basically, like, oh, he's just he's just getting scared by a little massacre of all of the students and professors at a university. This guy, huh? I cannot believe his last name is blood. Let me rub your broken spine. Really would work better for my last name you know? Yeah yeah why my last name is about kissing and he has blood. That's not bad guy he kissing I bloody the use Kissinger added in this is him now talking about what Yaya is doing in East Pakistan. Quote The use of power against seeming odds pays off. He's very impressed by the fact that that that Yaya gains control of East Pakistan with just. A few thousand soldiers, you know, yeah, he's really impressed. So there's a bunch of people get angry. You know, one of the big people whose most vociferous in the US government against what's happening in East Pakistan is Ted Kennedy. He is like a really, like, like, takes this on as like a a banner crusade. So, you know, once again people get very angry at the administration for what's going on, Nixon tells Kissinger, quote, the people who ***** about Vietnam ***** about it because we intervened and what they say is a civil war. Now, some of the same ******** want us to intervene here. Both civil wars is being, like, see how inconsistent they are? Yeah. You know, pick, pick, pick. What do you want? It's like, Henry, do you think selling arms to one side and a civil war might be intervening? Yeah. Is that is it possible they wanna put it on the scale? We're not going to do that. We haven't. We're not gonna do that. Oh yeah. Needs. How many more missiles? Absolutely. Give us some missiles. Absolutely. So Kissinger writes up a policy paper in which he urges. The US, to quote, make a serious effort to help Yaya end the war he'd started. And again, this isn't even really a civil war. E Pakistan isn't like mobilizing a vast army to fight for their independence. They, like, voted and then, yeah, sent soldiers to kill them all. Civil war it does. They're start to be guerrillas and like the Indian government, start sending weapons into like, the guerrilla fighters in East Pakistan. But like, the massacres start first. Well, and again, I mean, like to what you're saying there. He held an election. I mean, this would be like if David Cameron just had tanks the day after Brexit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ohh. God, that would be a bad idea. That's not what I would have. I mean, my marginally better, I guess. Britain's somehow colonizes the EU. Oh my God. Britain finally colonizes itself. I say that you work for us. What? We already bloody work for you there, you there. Now you know we already did with British. You work for the British now? Yeah, and because of their Sandhurst educations, Gareth, your same fake accent can work for Yaya are lovely. Yeah, now. So, cognac on the mind of Nixon responds to Kissinger's policy paper with a handwritten note that he adds to the paper, saying, don't squeeze Yaya at this time. Do you want to just go vice under normal circumstances? In May, in May, indeed, that's this to Richard, and this is, you know, India. There's a degree of at legitimate concern among Indian people for, like, the humanitarian crisis. There's also, politically there's tons of refugees. Right. And so there's also this, like, very blunt political like, well, we can't let this be happening because refugees are a political problem for us right there. States, you know, nations don't make decisions ever because it's the right thing or the wrong thing to do. But India's, broadly speaking, on the right side of this one. I think that's fair to say. So because they're watching what's happening, India starts massing troops on the border of East Pakistan in order to potentially intervene. But they don't do anything yet. Nixon tells Kissinger to cut off economic aid to India if they intervene in this genocide and Kissinger responds, quote, the last thing we can afford to do now is to have the Pakistani government overthrown. Given the other things that we are doing, this is a clear reference to their their plans to meet with China right these very directly saying the reason we can't let anything happen to you. The US government, even though they're carrying out a genocide, is because we need him to get to China. Umm, now Kissinger follows this up with a SOP to Nixon's racism, calling Indians quote the most aggressive *** **** people around there. Again, I mean, it's obviously like the projection is obviously insane. Nixon responds by telling Kissinger that what India needs is a mass famine. Kissinger does not. She Christ. Kissinger does not disagree. And he follows up by saying India has no right to invade another country, quote, no matter what Pakistan does in its territory, you know, OK, I'm going to take a 5. You guys can keep going. I'm gonna take a 5. You guys keep going, though. That's fine. I'm gonna go outside and put my head through a wall. Real concerned about national sovereignty. Can you imagine someone doing something like that? Yeah, we can discuss, given the history of the United States of the whole, who gets to fairly complain about violations of national sovereignty, but definitely not Henry Kissinger. Yeah. Yeah. Evenly. Not this guy, right. Yeah. It's like the ******* dudes from the Bush administration yelling at, like, what Russia is doing in Ukraine, not the Russian actions in Ukraine. It is like, no, not you, not you, not you, not you. Yeah, I beg there's a lot of people we don't wanna hear from them. You're absolutely not the ******* lesbian crystal. So Kissinger assures his boss besides the killing has stopped so it's fine. It had not as it had not. It has. It has not. Yeah. In April of 1971, which is, by the way, the the, You know Archer blood the the State Department official who does everything possible to get the US to act. Kissinger and Nixon fire him, get him immediately. Got to get that guy out of there, right. Yeah guys, out of his mind out of there. I agree. He's terrible. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Yeah. Now in April of 1971, the same month as the Blood Telegram and Nixon. Receives his official invitation from the Chinese, from the Chinese government, and it's again, it's a secret invitation, right? You know everything's because they don't know that it's going to like work. You can't just have Nixon go to China first. You have to send someone ahead of time to handle early negotiations. Will not like it's a it's a whole process. Yeah, it's a pretty China. You gotta. Yeah, you gotta Lube up your China before you get **** ****. Yeah, before you get **** **** ** there, actually. Yeah, that's right. So I come. Nixon gleeful tells Kissinger to go. Kissinger is the Lube in this situation. Tells Kissinger to go in secretly and handle these early negotiations. He claims that this visit to China they're planning will be, quote, a great watershed in history, perhaps clearly the greatest since World War Two. And that's what Nixon says. Kissinger, being a **** *** responds by saying no, no, it'll be the greatest since the civil war. I mean, my God, the idea that you're following. Shut up with no, no better better than World War Two, yeah. So July came and Kissinger set off for Southeast Asia on what was billed as a diplomatic tour of the region, but obviously is in reality a secret diplomatic mission code named, Oh Boy, Oh no. Operation Marco Polo. Oh, for ***** sake. **** sake. I mean, at least just get a better marketing person in the White House. It's like, hey, Nixon. Nixon, listen to me, Marco Polo, first shot of water. Marco. So Nixon visits India, and then he flies to West Pakistan, and shortly after landing, he drinking. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wait. What? Oh my God. Fakes the stomach bug. Oh, I thought you were going to get his stomach pumped up. No, no, no. So he he's like, tell everybody I'm ********. Yeah, tell everyone I'm pooping. We got a good excuse to tell him I'm on the toilet ******** my brains out. So he cancels Kissinger cancels a couple of days of planned meetings, and then while he's supposed to be sick, he boards in secret. A special plane flies from Islamabad. Daily Star, which was an Indian newspaper that summarizes what happens next. During Kissinger's China visit, both sides discussed a variety of issues. Kissinger found Zewen Li, who had studied in France and Germany from 1920 to 1923, to be a very articulate person who could converse even in German Kissinger's mother tongue. With ease. Both leaders agreed on recognizing Communist China as the only China and allotting a permanent seat in the UN Security Council to Beijing instead of Taiwan. The situation in the Indian subcontinent was discussed in detail, on which they had similar views with both. Expressing their unwavering support to Pakistan, Zao briefed Kissinger about the Indochinese border skirmishes and brained and blamed India for provocations. Both leaders had complete convergence of views on Yaya stand on the Bangladesh issue. Kissinger flew back to Paris and reached Washington on July 13th. So, OK, good. I mean, like, again, like, yes, they should be talking. Yes, this is fine. Yes, if you're going to have a Security Council, Beijing should probably sit on it rather than ******* Taiwan. Also, it's just a shame that it needs to come from mainly Alcoholics. Yeah. Like that in order to make the right decisions, it needs to come on the back of genocides and blackouts. Yeah. And like, I feel like probably if the Nixon administration had had just like announced publicly through like the global media, we're we were wrong. the United States and our policy towards Taiwan and we want to recognize China and establish relationships with them and put them on the if they just like said that and like a news thing, probably China would have been like, oh, OK, and this all could have happened. But but that also would have looked weak by the standards of, like, politics, right? It would have looked like begging. And so they're not going to do that. They're going to do this instead because it it looks all strong for the the base, who, you know, just wanted Vietnamese and Cambodian people to be ******* massacred. So they feel better. Like, yeah, it's the base we're talking about based on blood. And they fired him. Mm-hmm. That's right. So when he got back to DC and sat down with his boss, Kissinger excitedly relayed the story of the cloak and Dagger. Exercise this week. He's very excited that he got to do with James Bond. He tells Kissinger or Kissinger tells Nixon quote Ya Ya hasn't had such fun since the last Hindu massacre. Ohhh my ******* God. What in the ****? They're needs. You did need to just like bring in another. I mean blood would have been a good person, but there just needs to be a regular person. Like, hey, I'm sorry we can't talk like that. You guys keep getting really comfy with this language. It's really not OK yeah nobody says that. God, there has to be like some ************ cleaning up Nixon's. Like puke in the corner. Yeah. And just a janitor who just, like, quietly shakes his head every time. Yeah. To camera. Yeah. Yeah. They've got a gym in there. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So that the bartender, the knowing bartender. I just imagine that coming out of your mouth. Yeah. You're you can't. It's not a joke when you say that while there's a genocide going on here. Hasn't had that much fun since the genocide. So that's says a lot about us. Yeah. You celebrating a guy killing people. You realize how cool you gotta be there, I mean. Look, I don't have a friend, but if I did. So on July 15th, 1971, Richard Nixon addressed the United States and told everyone that Henry Kissinger had just conducted a secret mission which had concluded with an agreement for Nixon to travel to Beijing and negotiate. By this point, hundreds of thousands of Bangladeshi civilians were dead and more than a million had been made refugees. India was edging closer and closer to war over the whole matter and it was the considered opinion of the defense establishment that they would win fairly easily. India had started arming Bengali guerrilla fighters at this point and. During one meeting on the matter, Nixon described Indians as, quote, a slippery, treacherous people who would like nothing better than to use this tragedy to destroy Pakistan. So ******. I mean, you can't even talk about it. I mean, it's like you can't even say **** anymore. Yeah, it's just it's just insane nonsense. Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's just so crazy how this, this, you know, this is imperialism, colonialism, language. It's just never faded. No, no. It's just always guys in power. They've been talking like, this is the ******* 1500s. It's never stopped. It's the, I mean, this guy's not, you couldn't really call him in power, but it's that ******* journalist for whoever, talking about, like, Ukraine and, like, this is the first war between civilized nations. Like, what the **** dude? Like, you know, it's quite different to see people who are white and European do it. That feels quite different. And the way he's carefully that journalists are talking about, the way he's carefully picking his language and he's like, you're like, yeah, wait, this is your thoughtful version. Yeah, this is that in this dress is your delicate statement. He cut the slurs out, you know? Yeah. He was like, gotta be careful here. I'm gonna say some dirty words because Nixon and. And they absolutely say some slurs. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. So the outcry domestically and internationally reaches a fever pitch at this point. Kind of late summer 1971. And in August, the escalating crisis pushes India to sign a formal Treaty of friendship with the Soviet Union. Anti communists, Nixon included. Considered this a disaster. And as good as an end to India's neutrality. But condemning Yaya or stopping the sale of US weapons to a country committing genocide was not considered an option. Yaya had to be kept in power until the China trip was conclusively locked down. It's Christ. I'm gonna quote him from the blood telegram. After a while, after Kissinger returned from Beijing, he said we cannot turn on Pakistan and I think it would have disastrous consequences with China that after they gave us an airport we massacre them. In this case, for Kissinger, massacre meant putting pressure on a government, not the actual massacres. I mean, if like they've done so many massacres that massacres aren't massacres anymore, yeah. This is the only thing Henry Kissinger ever described as a massacre is people being mean to to Nixon's drunk genocide. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Nixon, meanwhile, was committing a genocide. I'll have a gin and tonic. Oh, that's good. That's good. That. You know what? Somebody make a Nixon themed gin cocktail. The genocide. It should be red in color. Pineapple. Hmm. Death cherries. Little bit of a little bit of your own puke from the first step. So also in August, George Harrison and Ravi Shankar organized a benefit concert in New York supporting relief efforts in Bangladesh. Nixon brushed this off to Kissinger saying, quote, Biafra stirred up a few Catholics. But you know, I think Biafra stirred people up more than Pakistan because Pakistan, they're just a bunch of *** **** brown Muslims for ******* sake. ******* Christ. Wait, if we need to bomb The Beatles? Yeah, by being recorded. The Beatles. The Beatles recorded right now. The only one we could keep us? Ringo. He seems like we could maybe shift him, yeah. Mint Mobile offers premium wireless starting at just 15 bucks a month. And now for the plot twist. Nope, there isn't one. Mint Mobile just has premium wireless from 15 bucks a month. 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Visit betterhelp.com behind today to get 10% off your first month. That's better helpp.com/behind betterhelp.com/behind. This fall on revisionist history, is there anything that we haven't talked about, or I should have asked you or you'd like to add that seems relevant? You should have asked me why I'm missing fingers on my left hand. A story about sacrifice. I think his suffering drove him to try to alleviate suffering. And the shocking discovery I made where I faced the consequences of writing a book I thought would help people, isn't that funny? It's not funny at all. It's depressing. Very depressing. Revisionist history is back with more. Listen to revisionist history on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I've never seen less enthusiasm for a great idea in my life. We're back again. I mean, it's like you you would expect. And again, I mean, at least in my head, at some point you would expect someone to just be like, guys, what the ****? And at least. And even if I did expect someone to just be like guys, what the ****? And at least. And even if it didn't, even if it didn't really change anything, it would at least change the casual language and racism that is. Just kind of tossed around or someone would be like, hey, you shouldn't be recording all this. Yeah, yeah. Boy, you shouldn't be recording all **** ****. Hey, everybody. That's why we have all this detail that hit stop on this. Yeah, I'm gonna stop this in a full trade at the Nixon administration. Yeah, Nixon did. Nixon was like, I think we got a mole and it might be drunk. Me, I think the blackout reads recording us. We need to fight a war on night. Nixon. On October 25th, 1971, the People's Republic of China was admitted to the UN as a permanent member of the Security Council. Again, they've been occupied for Taiwan by years. Taiwan gets like let out very unceremoniously. China gets put in place. The People's Republic of China's representative celebrates with a vocal attack on quote, American imperialists and their running dogs. But nobody took this seriously. It was generally referred to as firing by empty cannons. You know, you're trying, you gotta get, you gotta, you gotta throw out your your attack on the US. But like you know, everybody's getting along at this moment right by November again we when we we just talked about the guy who built that giant mountain sized cannon for Saddam, like not long after this the CIA. Like illegally helping that arms designer subvert international treaties to sell cannons to China because China's, you know, not on good terms with the USSR. It's all just like brinksmanship, political ******* that doesn't match up with some of the history in this country that's straight. So yeah, this this. By November of 1971, more than 10 million people had been made refugees by the violence in Bangladesh. Jeffrey Davis, a Doctor Who was brought into the country by the UN later to perform late term abortions on rape victims. Again this is like, so part of what happens is the systemic mass rape by Pakistani soldiers of Bangladeshi women. They the UN brings a doctor in afterwards to like perform these abortions on these rape victims. The estimate before this doctor comes in is that between 200 and 400,000 Bengali women have been raped. And Jeffrey Davis says, oh, it's way more than that. God, Oh my God, it's much more than that. Uh. The CIA estimates 200,000 civilians are murdered in this. Given where the US stands on this issue, you might not want to trust the CIA's numbers now. The Soviet newspaper Pravda estimates some 3,000,000 dead, which is also likely not entirely accurate, but is probably closer than the CIA's numbers credible low estimates of the death toll. For over half a million it is very likely that between one and 2,000,000 Bengalis were murdered. 1 1/2 million is often what you will hear. Probably pretty fair, although any kind of exact count is obviously impossible. But this is a genocide on the Titanic scale. You know, in December W Pakistan declared war on India. Remember yaya's not good at things, so that's he. I mean, I mean it's again breakfast cognac will do you some crazy ****. So their man declares war again. Ya ya declares war. That's right where it is that you ready for us. You messed with the wrong. Yeah yeah Nixon and Kissinger blame this on Indira Gandhi. Ohh. But I'll tell you, This is why you can't have a woman in India. She's just asking to be attacked. Nixon tells Henry that it makes your heart sick to see Pakistan be done so by the Indians and after. Of the current God ***** the good guy. After we've warned the ***** after all. Sorry I cut you off. Yeah, and after we have warned the *****. I mean, again, it's like you're not in a Tavern. This is the ******* White House. Hmm. Should we put that in in a fresh in? An official press statement would probably not. Richard, let's talk about that in the morning. Let's call her a *****. Then let's just yeah, you're right. Yaya proved to be as bad at war as he was good at being friends with Dick Nixon. The Indian military curb stomps. Pakistan. I cannot exaggerate the degree to which these guys get their ***** handed to them within a week. It is clear that not only is West Pakistan going to lose the war, but Pakistan might not survive as a country as a result of how badly they're being beaten, right? Yeah, yeah, it's not good at anything. I want to quote now from a write up by an Indian veteran. He's very good at drinking. He's pretty good at drinking. What do you mean? I started a war with you? Yeah, there was days ago I said I was sorry. I got it all. Riding mowers and blackout. So I want to quote now from a write up by an Indian veteran of the conflict for Indie TV which is another Indian news periodical on December 8th. This Pakistani defense is in East Pakistan were following before the onslaught of the joint command of the Indian Army and Bangladeshi Mukti Bahini Liberation Warriors. Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger were busy plotting ways to change the tide of war or arrest it. Henry Kissinger in a meeting with Richard Nixon and Attorney General Newton Mitchell now to classified said he has got a message for you to you from the Shah of Iran. Which says he can send the ammunition to a beleaguered Pakistan. What he is doing it now, what is good? I mean, obviously you can help us here, the Shah of Iran. The level of war to stop war. Yeah. So it was another was another ***** ** **** we can bring in on this. The brilliant diplomat also revealed that Iran will send fighter planes to protect Jordan from Israel, while Jordan will send jets to Pakistan for the war effort against India. What? What? Honestly? What is like, it's not like an NFL trade works. Yeah. How could you have thought this would work? I mean, it's a it's a drunk game of risk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah, he's just wasted playing risk. The US national security adviser also expressed fear that India would attack W Pakistan in a major way after winning the war in the east. The Indian plan is now clear. This is Kissinger. They're going to move their forces from East Pakistan to the West. They will then smash the Pakistan land forces and Air Forces Annex the Pakistan occupied part of Kashmir and then call it off. Warren Henry Kissinger. When this has happened, the centrifugal forces in West Pakistan would be liberated. Baluchistan and the Northwest frontier will celebrate. W Pakistan would become a sort of intricate Afghanistan. So. This is Henry's Afghanistan. That's Henry's concern. So he insists this is enough of a disaster that the US has to send the 7th Fleet into the Bay of Bengal in order to scare India. The 7th is headed by the USS Enterprise and is widely considered to be the most powerful naval force on Earth. This prompts the Russians to send a fleet in as well and the world gets to live through another period of are we going to have a nuclear war? Kissinger, because he's real good at calming people down, encourages China to intervene against India and in Nixon's words, quote, scare those *** **** Indians to death. China is like, do you? Maybe we should go back to the Taiwan thing that actually seemed to be this might be a little. They seem to be pretty good, actually. That was working a little better, I think, for you guys. Welcome aboard. Now you're in hell, yeah. In the end, Kissinger's plan failed. India does not take his bait, and in late December, Pakistan surrenders to India E Pakistan because its own independent nation Bangladesh. Yaya is forced out of office and placed under house arrest, where he suffers a stroke. So that's genius. I've got an idea for a comeback, boys. It's called the comeback cognac, kid. How you mean I can't leave? That will be fine. So Kissinger claims this whole state of affairs. How this all resolves is a victory for the Nixon administration. Of course. I mean announced. Clearly he announces this by saying congratulations, Mr. President, you saved W Pakistan. I did. What time was it? Last night you saved Westpac. Who's the hero? Ah, I mean. Two months graduations. You did it. Regulations being said. Amazing. Now, two months after the end of the war, Nixon makes his big visit to China. The media eats it up, and suddenly Nixon's reelection campaign has something to hang their hats on beyond claims that peace in Vietnam is gonna happen. One of these days we'll get around it. Taught with the Soviets, has announced soon after, right. They do like they're good thing. Like obviously it's good like if this happens, good things result from it. During a conversation later that year, Kissinger tells his boss no one has yet understood what we did in India. Pakistan and how we saved the China option, which we need for the bloody Russians. Why should we give a damn about Bangladesh? Well, there you go. That says that says it. All right. Yeah. Here it is. Nobody's congratulating us on how good of a job we did. Yeah, well, I mean, in their opinion and their track record of foreign policy, it's all about egg breaking. Yeah. You know, for whatever version of omelet they insist they're serving. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, man, I agree. the US. You know, Mao and ******* Kissinger or Mao and Nixon should have sat down and talked like all of these conversations have been happening, did talk with Russia. Good. Feel like you didn't need to back a genocide to make that happen. You know, like that wasn't a necessary ingredient. It's it's easy to look back on a genocide and go, was this right or wrong? But when you're in the middle of a genocide, you're like, this seems pretty OK. I mean I'm getting, I'm getting a which genocide are you on? How well can I talk to people? Having cognac with Yaya before flying to China and keep in mind I'm good here. I'm pretty much blackout drunk for all this, so that's pretty good for a guy who can't walk in a straight line. Yeah, it's anyway that's how Henry Kissinger made peace between the nuclear powers. No Asterix on that one, yeah, I mean, it is the most chaotic, insane ******* nonsense. It's just crazy now. I really it is on a level where I mean it's it's, it's been hard to process the whole time, but now it's like. It's normalized and yeah, you're seeing the version when they're sort of there, the training wheels have been taken off. How much they are actually doing and getting away with in way like, again, I mean, just to have an adult in the room, but I mean, they fire you fire the adult, obviously. But yeah, it it is on. It is. I mean, it just is absolutely ******* preposterous that this is not well known about. Or even if it even if it is well known how the **** Kissinger keeps showing up over and over again. Ohhh yeah he's with all these people that people that that that people are sycophants for for in our in our politics. No I can never, I can never get over the fact that Hillary Clinton was campaigning with him. Yeah yeah and that people were like ohh look who's back shady. One of the things that's so this doesn't really like mark on like the moral list of things that he did wrong but I just find it so shameful. Like, again, you have all of these other people, like, all of the folks we talked about, like, yeah, yeah, like Nixon, who do horrible things in it but are like, also. Getting to like exercising power and like the big men and like you know, the, the, the, the dudes that the like, I don't know they're they're not like sycophants. Whereas Henry is just sort of like sucking up to everyone around him in order to further war crimes. Which again yeah, it doesn't isn't, doesn't rate discussing on a moral level compared to everything else. It just is like that's the guy he is. Yeah, he's just like a power guy. He is. He's just like he he is not. I mean, and also. And I don't mean to keep beating this drum, but they're drunk. Yeah. Well, I don't think Kissinger is, but Nixon for sure. What I mean. Yeah. And. Yeah. Yeah. Is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is a Nixon is a Kissinger is not. And he's still like, that's pretty good idea. Yeah. You know, it's be like it would be like if you're around like, like you're in a car ride to Florida with three drunk guys and they're just like, hey, well, what did we drink last night? The one goes like, I have a drink, but let's go to Florida. Yeah. God, it's man and the blatant racism as far as, like, who you're willing to sacrifice. I mean, you know, as usual with this country where. Yeah, you just you really do not give a ****. They really just literally do not care about anybody who's not why. They just don't ******* care why. Why would they? I mean, if you're them, there's no referee in this game so foul as much as you want. I just ******* to ******* you know, grow up with the Nazis right there. And watch the Holocaust and then Dave, Dave be able to save this child. She's not his childhood. He didn't was not affected by this child. That's true. Sorry for you impact on going back to that. But that that again we've we've sort of knocked that domino down. That did not happen. Like it never occurred. It didn't happen, clearly, yes. You know, that's why. Look, that's why he's fine with what's happening in Bangladesh. He knows it's not going to affect those kids, the ones who survive, those who lived through history are doomed to repeat it because it was fine. Yeah. Because it was causing. Completely fine. It was fine. Why? Because I said so. Yeah, ohhhhhh. Anyway, I just. I just typed in Kissinger's name in to Google and the first thing that comes up is you pile of vomit. Ohh God, what did he say? ******* hell, I. We don't need to settle the UK crisis. Start at the end. I don't even wanna know. That was 2014. OK, OK. Still nonsense. Like, of course, yes, it would be great to start at the point where there's not a war, but yeah, that's not really helpful in right. Thanks, Henry. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, buddy. Yeah. OK. Whatever. He you know, yeah. He's on the same thing. Yeah. He's he's doing kiss. Like what? It doesn't matter. Like obviously when you say that like there's point things like the ******* nuclear disarmament where like you can find moments in history where he's right. It doesn't matter if if he's right or wrong about a specific issue because you we we see what he actually does, which is whatever it takes to keep himself close to power. Like he doesn't believe anything to the extent that he's ever right or a part of something good like arms reductions. It's because that's the thing that the. People who he's sycophants to want to do. And it doesn't matter that he supported the opposite thing for years, like, because he doesn't care. Yeah, because it's a parasite. Just looking for a hook. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Like, I don't give him credit for anything. Like, like it's funny. It's funny you say that, because all these articles about, about what he said about Ukraine in 2014. So people are going back to like he said and you're like, yeah, no, that guy's a ******* war crimes only. He'd thought to start at the end of the war. If only we'd thought of that, Henry. Good point, Henry. Solid. We're gonna start we're gonna start a go fund me to get you bones. Yeah. Oh God, I hope. Lord, if he doesn't die immediately, obviously him dying immediately is my primary hope. But I hope if he doesn't die immediately, he lasts long enough to get sucked into one crypto scam. You know, just just just just one good cryptocurrency scam. Can we get that at least? I I wanted to start his own crypto called Hank Bank. Heck of America, I am noble blockchain. I you could buy piece of my skin. Each in FT represents an individual time. Richard Nixon vomited into my lap. I've become an NFT. Ohh God. Wow. Alright, well, well done again. Plug anything here. I mean again. It's it's getting harder. 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