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Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:00
Let's Talk About Dave Rubin
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That's fair. Legal part of my contract with the government. So this is behind the ******** podcast about the bad people in the world, and we're doing something a little bit, a little bit, a little bit different today. See, it's helpful in this show with all the breaking news that happens in the world and the fact that I sometimes go cover it live to have a little bit of a backlog built up gives us some flexibility, lets us do things. And we lost that backlog this summer because of all the riots that I had to. And so we're trying to build that backlog back up but I gotta write like 20 pages a week just to just to to keep moving. So we're we're working on some ways to get some to get ahead of it and and one of them is today's special episode we're focusing on what I would call a little B ******* someone who would not be enough to get an episode of behind the ******** on his own. But I do think is interesting in the way he's ******. So I've written a short essay about him and then we're going to delve into his book and to help me explore this particular. Little bee *******. This this this this special piece of crap is shareen Laniado. I'm back, fam. I'm back. Come on, shareen. We're talking about David Rubin. Ohh. Thank you. That was wow. The last little bee. I thought you would say David Rubin. Should I know who Rubin, I think. I mean I. That's good. Should I know who David Rubin is? No, you you shouldn't. You really shouldn't. He's very popular among people who were trash. Yeah, great. You were not very popular. He's like moderately popular because he hangs on to people who are very popular among people who are trash. But he himself is of of it best modest notoriety. Now, he's been very successful at riding the coattails of some of the ********* people in our discourse. To modest success. Are actually significant. Like a lot of money, but that's he's a he's a trash. Teach a trash leach. Robert just stepped away, so it's my opportunity to say off the top. I just, I want to get out of the way, but. I don't know if I could top my last appearance. That was a trip for me. But I just really, I really, really want to thank everyone that reached out to me via e-mail, Twitter, Instagram. I read everything you wrote. I tried to respond to everyone that I could, but it really meant a lot to me. And yeah, it was just really sweet and really affirmed that I should be vulnerable and normalizing. Talking about sex and sexuality is so important. Me and it's OK if I'm the vehicle for that sometimes, but but yeah, I just wanted to say a really quick thank you to all the listeners that are listening now that maybe have reached out to me because your words really meant a lot. Thank you. I thought, well, that's very sweet to hear and very and very soulful, which is appropriate because the person we're talking about today doesn't have a soul, not a single ounce of soul. Yeah, good to know. Good to know. Yeah. Which makes which makes this episode, which makes you the perfect guest for this episode because you were full of soul and love and warmth. No thanks. I really feel dead inside most of the time, so that's nice that you have that impression of me. So, Shereen, you, you, you you don't know David Rubin. He's like a YouTuber. He's a right wing YouTuber. He gets a lot of coke money and he's he's pretty trash. So we're going to read a little essay about Mr Rubin and then we're going to read from his book, which is called, oh, you're going to love it, Shereen. It's called don't burn this book, which is I think a pretty sad attempt to make people like. To to act as if there's anything actually right disruptive in there, as opposed to just being another cash grab by a guy who's basic modus operandi is to support the Republican Party. So David Joshua Reuben was born on June 26th, 1976. Obviously, since this isn't a standard episode, I'm not writing 10 pages on this guy, but we do have to get some context of his career because it's interesting and he's emblematic of a species of grifter. He grew up in what he called a fairly secular household in Long Island. He came of age in Syosset, NY or Syosset. I don't know how you ******* East Coast *******. I hate that whole ******* coast Shereen. It's SYOSET, New York. He grew up there. He got a bachelor's degree in political science at Binghamton University. And despite a complete lack of talent and charisma, Dave decided that he was going to be a stand up comedian. So Dave decided that, like I, he was going to be a stand up comedian. And he's. He had no talent in comedy, no ability to really work a crowd. But he decided to give it a shot anyway, so he started rampaging through a bunch of open mics in New York. Uh, most of his jokes centered around the fact that that he was a gay man. And isn't that funny? Like that that kind of comedy? Yeah, heard that before, yeah. In the early aughts, he was one of the hosts of a podcast called Hot Gay Comics, which I'm sure was. Very. I love when people make their sexuality their entire personality. Yeah, I'm gay and I do comedy. That's the joke. Yeah. He made a public access fake news program, like like a parody of a news show in around 2000, and he cofounded a couple of comedy clubs. His career in standoff never really took off like he was he was. He had a certain level of prominence, like, within a certain community, but it was not the kind of thing he was ever going to make a good living at, which is why he quit in 2007. And I I think looking at a few clips of him being a comedian, it's very clear why his career didn't take off because he's he's very, very bad. He's he's a he's a void of charisma. And I'm going to send you a link here. I was just going to say I love that you put yourself through that, but now you're putting me through that. So. Oh yeah, no, absolutely. Thankfully, this is from a tweet by Nathan Robinson. I'm not sure if he's the person who collected the videos or not, but somebody took clips from a bunch of his different stand ups over. I think it was probably over a couple of years. And so we just have him like a few. Different punch lines of his so we can see how how the crowd reacts to Dave Rubin. Lesbians love amstell. What is that? What is it it tastes like? Water. Is there anything hotter than a lesbian spitting Amstel light all over herself? This is bunk. I'm very uncomfortable. And you I I think you're gay and you're but you're am I right? No, really. No, Mormon, you raise your hand. Does anyone need their genitals warmed up? That is our show alright. Did you guys have fun? Does anyone need their genitals warmed up? Yeah, that's a joke. That's get it because he's he's not straight, so that's the joke. I did post this is this is pretty funny, but I did post this image the other day that has this wound on someone's arm and it says white guilt, and then there's a Band-Aid coming over it that says queerness. And I do think some people use their sexuality and or queerness, and this is coming from a queer person. White people use their queerness sometimes as a way to skirt around the fact that they're problematic, and that gives them this, like, leeway to say whatever they want when really it doesn't do that at all, if that makes sense. I'm like summarizing that meme in a very. A roundabout way, but. Weaponizing your sexuality is never really. To to disparage someone else's. Never, really. Advised in my opinion, yeah. And I don't think he was meaning to be disparaging at this point. I think it was just a matter of, like, he's not a very good comedian. And so, like, you know, this was the early aughts, early 2000s, that was sort of like, like, you you watch a lot of TV shows that had, like, gay characters in them. And, like, the joke was that they were gay, but it wasn't like they weren't trying to be mean. It was like attempting, like, there's a Simpsons episode that won an award for gay representation that is cringy to watch. These days, but like at the time they're like, Oh my God, the gay people in the show aren't monsters. Like, it's like, so I think he was kind of writing that wave, which didn't last long because people were like, oh, what are we just treated everybody like people and like didn't, didn't you know? And and Dave thing for for material and didn't really. He couldn't reach very far. No. And he. Yeah. You can see there, like, he can't work a crowd. He has no charisma. People don't like him when he does like a live show. Uh. And this made, you know, a career in live performances, less than an ideal professional route for Dave. But he did have some talents, you know, he was good at organizing things. He put together some comedy clubs. You know, he was he. I I assume his show was funny enough that it earned him some like the the local access show, that it earned him some attention and he got an internship with the daily shows Jon Stewart. What? Yeah. Which is big. And this is like early on, like when Jon Stewart is like kind of having his big rise to prominence, you know? Umm. So Ruben does that for a little while, and I think it eventually leads him to get hired by The Young Turks network and it moves to California and stuff. And The Young Turks is like a yeah. So, like, we'll talk about them in a second. But yeah, he. So he gets his own show, the Reuben report on The Young Turks network back in 2013. Jon Stewart and The Young Turks, that's pretty left, you know? Yeah. And he's left at this point. Yeah, OK, yeah, yeah. He's he's he's at least masquerading as a progressive at this point. So he's like 37 years old when he gets his show with The Young Turks, and that's kind of his big break. Now, The Young Turks are a progressive left wing news network unadvisedly named after the architects of the Armenian Genocide. For reasons too complicated to explain here, the network's number one claim to fame was providing the launchpad for the career of one of my favorite journalists, Ken Klippenstein, who who's pretty ******* cool. Eclipse, yeah. Best Twitter follow you could ever hope for. Yeah, he ******* rules. So for a while, like, that's kind of like, it's a pretty, you know, progressive network. Not hard left, but not Democrat like kind of soft left, like sandersen, you know, it's kind of where we'd say it. And for a while, David Show was pretty standard, like soft left wing fair. I'm going to quote from rational wiki here, kind of summarizing the stuff that he he got up to on his and the Rubin report. In its young Turks days, he publicly criticized National Rifle Association. Commercials trying to incite the fear of consequences of gun reform laws being planned to be passed by the United States Congress addressed a decision by McDonald's to remove healthier foods from its menu in a critical manner. On a 2014 episode of The Young Turks, he rebuked self regulation in the economy and claimed that it has never worked and he was supportive of single payer health insurance. So, OK, yeah, he's fine. Like, right? He's like a pretty normal, like kind of lefty Democrat. Nothing too outrageous. There were, however. Some early signs that something might be a little odd with Dave. In 2014 when Israel invaded Gaza, they had that they had their war in Gaza. In 2014, The Young Turks did like a 40 minute sort of like Episode Roundtable where they all kind of talked about what was happening. And Dave got into fights with absolutely everybody by kind of like not kind of by repeatedly defending Israel's behavior in the war. And in subsequent shows he repeatedly denied like war crimes that had been committed by Israel. He showed up on like a A a radical atheist. Then a podcast to express a bunch of, like, like, pretty much outright lies about Palestinian people and the Palestinian cause. So, like, there were some signs like, OK, Dave's something's going on with Ruben here. Something a little bit not not the standard for the milieu he occupies, as I'm wearing my Palestine shirt. Yep. Yeah, Palestine isn't free. Yeah, and neither is my time, Dave. Sorry, I shouldn't because I didn't see the lower part. Palestine isn't free, and neither is my time. That's funny. Thank you. So, Dave, yeah, it is a little bit odd. And he keeps getting into arguments with with other folks at The Young Turks, particularly the founder of the network, Shank Wigger. And this is probably more or less like why he winds up leaving The Young Turks network. He and Jenk had an escalating series of disagreements that started with Ruben's comments about Palestine. Ruben himself would later claim that he grew apart from the left because of its obsession with identity politics, hostility towards free speech and unwillingness to debate. Openly, he now has a completely different story for why he he left the left, but Umm, you know that that that's as we'll cover that's the main reason that he's prominent now is that he used to be on the left and he, he he gives a bunch of lectures on why he left. So that's kind of the whole, he's just monetized that very effectively. So The Young Turks allowed Ruben to take his show and its YouTube account with him. He bounced around from company to company, including Ora TV, which was founded by Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim and Larry King. That didn't workout, and Ruben went through a number of different hosts and networks over the course of about a year, from 2014 until 2016. Suggests he might have been kind of a pain in the *** to work with. In 2016 the Rubin report went independent and Dave Rubin finally found the thing he was good at. See, 2016 is like the easiest possible year you could have picked to get into the business of making right wing propaganda on YouTube. The mix of prevailing political winds and Google's algorithm meant that even an idiot could make money spreading quasi fascist propaganda for a while. And Dave unfortunately was not a total idiot. In a move that showed just how savvy he could be, he pivoted his show to almost exclusively. Hosting guests who are members of what would come to be called the intellectual dark web. You remember that that thing? Yeah. Yeah. So he yeah. He sees that all these guys, these like kind of regressive right wing thinkers are rapidly gaining in popularity thanks to a mix of Google's algorithm and, like, just sort of the political, you know? So he he he starts having all these dudes on his show as they're rising, which #1 builds a relationship with them. So they keep showing up even as they get big, and it kind of allows him to siphon off from their fan bases. And build a large fan base of his own. Yeah, and this is a very effective tactic. He starts interfacing more directly with other chunks of the right wing information sphere, including Prager University, where he stars in a viral video called why I left the Left and I'm going to send you this clip. You're going to start it at three minutes and 29 seconds, and you're going to run it to four minutes and three seconds, if that. You lucky me. I know you're going to really be happy today. I will say the minute you look him up on Google, his face. I know I say this maybe every time, but yeah, very punchable face, a very, very punchable if you look up punchable face. That's what comes up. For these reasons, I can no longer call myself a progressive. I don't really call myself a Democrat either. I'm a classical liberal, a free thinker, and as much as I don't like to admit it, defending my liberal values has suddenly become a conservative position. So if you think people should be able to say what they think without being punished for it, that people should be judged by their behavior, not their skin color, and that people should be able to live the way that they want to live without government interference, then there's not much left on the left for you. Yeah. Yeah. You get the idea. Yeah. That's the way he and the video is very successful. I don't know. How many views is that ****** have right now, Shereen? Oh my God. It has over 14 million views and 200. The 12,000 likes. So, and that is, you know, too many. All this together with like having people like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson and, you know, the kind of ID W intellectual darkweb crowd on his show over the course of 2016 builds a huge brand for David Rubin. And again, the appeal is not Rubin himself, although I think he probably thinks that it is. The appeal is that he has all these people who are really popular on and controversial, and he's willing to, he's willing to have conversations with all of these people. And he he consistently refuses to identify as right wing. As he said in the video, he calls himself a classical liberal. He endorses a libertarian, not Trump in 2016. But in spite of this, he repeatedly agrees with far right talking points, even endorsing banning Muslims from entering the United States. He has people like Mike Cernovich and Milo Yiannopoulos on his show, and Lauren Southern, who like went on his show and defended Richard Spencer while he goes uh-huh yeah, it's uh yeah. So much so yeah. Yeah, his his episodes with these out and out fascists like Milo. We're ostensibly the civil debates that he claimed that he loved, but he never actually pushed back against any of these right wing folks. Like not never. So they're not really debates, they're just him platforming and agreeing with terrible people because he's terrible. Even when, like Ben Shapiro, his quote UN quote friend expressed the opinion that Rubens very marriage is itself immoral because Ben Shapiro doesn't think gay people should get married. Rubens like doesn't it that none of this provides any conflict for Dave Rubin. Because as will become increasingly clear, he's never believed in a single thing in his entire life other than Dave Rubin being famous and rich. I mean, that's a huge, that's a great point. It's never about the platform or the politics or anything, and it's all about ego. It is never about anything but ego. And he's just doing everything he can possibly do to inflate his ego. And and it's just, it's not about money, it's not about standing up for anyone but himself. And I mean, not even that he doesn't even stand for his own. Courage. I wonder what his ******* husband thought about that. Yeah, and he talks about how disagreements with janker, why he left The Young Turks, but also like The Young Turks were never going to make him rich. Like I think they pay a living wage and he. I'm sure he got a living wage, but you don't get rich working for those folks. I mean, maybe Jacquez, but like that you're not going to get rich doing that gig. You can get rich, especially in 2016, being a far right YouTube grifter. And I mean, the other thing about The Young Turks is that he would never be the main character. You know? He wants to be, he wants to be front and center spotlight. He is not because it's about his ego, it's not about anything else. And the sad thing is, he's still not the main character because he only has gained success by, like, attaching himself, lamprey like to more successful grifters. I'm going to quote from Business Insider here. Rubens interviewing style is to rely on civility, which in practice serves as a platform for the guests to present their arguments unchallenged. But the idea seems to apply for only one side. In a 2019 interview with then Democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson, Ruben scolded her for making what he called a slippery slope. Argument in comparing the Holocaust to slavery, guests like far right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, who said Jews control the banks and media, Stefan Molyneux, who said blacks have smaller brains than whites, and Lauren southern, who defended Richard Spencer's white nationalism as distinct from white supremacism, whom Rubin later called Fearless, were met with no pushback at all when making egregious statements on the Rubin report. Oh my God. 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I'm not going to use any of my ***** that I have to give on ******* Harvey Weinstein right now. Exactly. You know what? I'll promise for the sake of intellectual consistency, if we deal with 30 or 40,000 more pressing problems, I will care about that injustice. Yeah, sure. I mean, yeah, down the line, maybe in. Yeah, sure. What we, we we take care of a few 10,000 problems, deal with climate change. You know, stop the rise of fascism. Reform the criminal justice systems that black men stop getting murdered by cops and indigenous people stop getting murdered by cops in the war on drugs, released everybody with a drug related conviction. You know, we we get all that done. Maybe I'll be like, yeah, we should we should make sure your Harvey, you know, dies in a 2 bedroom apartment that is is comfortable. It also keeps him isolated from the rest of humanity rather than locking him in a torturous cell. I'll get on board that. I don't know. I think I would still. We might disagree on this. I I think he maybe should die. I think I would. I think you. I don't know. I'm not willing to endorse him dying in prison, but I will have a long argument with you about whether or not he should die in prison while he's dying in prison. And then if he happens to die in prison while we're trying to come to an accord. Oh, oh, oh, that's a good point. OK, wait. OK, I see. What? OK, I see. I see. My initial. My anger got the better of me. But, yeah, you're right. I think. I think you're completely right. I think justice needs to be served in a better way than just him. Disintegrating in a prison cell? Yeah, I think he and Paul Manafort. I think he and Paul Manafort should have to inhabit a a small apartment in Muskegon and citrus all day. I seen the Manafort roommates. I would watch that reality show. And and they they they can be the only ones picking citrus on whatever farm they're on because neither of them can be allowed to talk to people other than each other. Yeah, just too. Old monsters grifting each other and picking lemons all day. Getting heat stroke entertaining to think about it is fun. OK, so we're back to we're back to Dave Rubin, Dave Rube, Drube, Drubin. So yeah, I'm going to quote here from his write up and rational wiki about sort of how all of his positions changed as soon as it became very profitable to be a right wing grifter. Of course, Reuben reversed his earlier stance on self regulation in the economy, saying on a 2018 episode of the Joe Rogan Show that he wanted major deregulation and greater self regulation. After saying it never works. In addition, he's shown an ever expanding devotion to bringing in controversial right wing figures, including those with sympathies to causes of Objectivist style libertarianism and people with far right views on topics on his show in the name of free speech. One such figure is Stefan Molyneux, known for both objective instances as well as reactionary attitudes to women's rights given as openly negative view of women, as well as Melanie supportive racialist perspectives. He's a Nazi. When he does invite guests on the left now, it's usually only to complain about regressive ISM, which is his favorite word that the left is regressive. Which he, you know, fights against by partnering with people on their aggressive, right? I guess. So Rubens pivot has made him into a wealthy man. His YouTube channel has well over 2,000,000 subscribers. Again, he he works for one of the foundations or whatnot that he gets funding from, is funded itself by the Koch brothers and kind of traditionally shady thing, yeah, he gets coke money. As of 2019, he's hosted by Glenn Beck's The Blaze Network and all of this has made him a very wealthy man. He bought a $5 million. House in the Hollywood Hills. Like a year or so ago. Very recently, yeah. All of this has caused Anna Kasparian, his former colleague and friend at The Young Turks, to call him a lazy fraud who wanted, quote to make a 6 figure salary to host a 30 minute a week show despite herself and her colleagues working 12 hour days for far less. She reiterated that he sold out to Corporate America by pointing out he's received money from the Koch brothers and alleges that he has no true political identity. He's not an honest actor, nor an intellectual, just a fraud. Plain and simple. I like her. Yeah, that's pretty, pretty accurate. And she was, she's she was his friend. Which has to be a bummer when your friends tell you it's like weird to work with someone on a very left wing platform and then suddenly see them see, like swap over to the other side simply because it's more lucrative and I don't know, attention gravy. Because then it just proves they were never about any type of cause. Like, she's right, like he doesn't have any political opinions. He's just he's just a attention *****. And that reminds me. To throw in a plug for my new nightly show on Fox News, Robert Evans left bad, which I will be recording from the private island that I bought with my signing bonus. Robert Evans, left bad? Yeah, that's that's that's me saying you could come up with. Yeah, exactly. Bad. Over and over again and playing clips of Antifa looking scary. I've made $70 million already. No, no, no. You don't think about it at all. Bad. That's bad. He hated it so much. If you're gonna be a right wing grifter, you can't think at all about what you're doing right. You just speak for the listeners. We expect better. Robert Evans, you're not my listeners anymore. A bunch of frightened elderly people watching Fox News are going to be my listeners now. And all I have to tell them is that the left wing is bad. Why would it not be behind the left? ********. That's too complicated a title. Way too complicated a title. Robert Evans left bad. I'm just going to. What left equals bad? That's the left. This is it's getting. It's getting worse, so let's move on. Getting worse. It is getting worse. So there are, thankfully, some signs that Dave's ride to the top may be nearing an end. Much of his fame and his fan base were developed due to his close relationship to members of the intellectual Dark web. He was often seen as the group's hype man, and in fact he acted as the hype man for Jordan Peterson during the Professor's world tour after the release of his book 12 Rules for Life. Like he would introduce him at shows and stuff, and this gets worse and worse. Terrible, terrible sets. But in recent months, the intellectual dark web has kind of faded into a subcultural memory. We don't talk so much about those. Guys, these days, they become less relevant. Why is that? Like, how have they made that possible? Like, how have they made them themselves truly fade away into the background while still existing? The intellectual dark Web's whole goal was to kind of provide do you know what parachuting is? Well, there's a couple of ways to do it, but one of them is you put like a bunch of drugs that you're going to take and like a little packet of something and swallow it so that it dissolves slowly in your in your stomach. And it's kind of a way to avoid the nasty flavor and to get maybe a longer high, let's parachuting. But can you repeat that? I'm going to take some notes. OK, yeah. So. They like the intellectual dark web. We're kind of parachuting fascism into our culture by, like, wrapping it up in, like, just asking questions and the other kind of ****. They did it, but they did it. They did it. And now they're not as relevant anymore. Like, that's Shapiro. I don't think they wanted they like it's. I think they just wanted to be famous and prominent intellectuals, but the problem is that now it's moved beyond them and the right is represented by a mix of the president and a bunch of gun toting, howling, violent fascists and people like Ben Shapiro. Don't have nearly as much cultural, like cachet as they used to have because things have moved far beyond them and things have moved far beyond guys like like, obviously, Rubin's biggest break was his his friendship and his relationship to Jordan Peterson and Jordan Peterson's brain melted this year, and his daughter first subjected him to experimental Russian drug addiction therapy and then gave him COVID so he's not he's not really someone that Dave can cash in on anymore. All meat diet would do something to your body. Yeah. And I think that was even. Know if that's what did it. Like, it's just in general, yeah. Dave Rubin also had kind of failed during his maximum period of expansion to really have any actual, like a bunch of left wing folks kept asking him to debate, like, and he would never say yes, and he would actually regularly block them when they argued with him because he actually hates debate. So he doesn't. He's kind of locked himself into this position where the acceptable ideological spectrum of discussion and his show gets narrower and narrower. Every day uh and he can't really bring in new blood and the thing that he the the what was once a fertile field for a guy like him. Which is kind of like, I hate the left now. I'm not a right winger, I'm a classical liberal. Like listen to me, as things have gotten more polarized, nobody gives a **** about that anymore, or at least people give less ***** about it than they used to. And I actually found a write up in medium from one of his former fans who is still really a big fan of guys like Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris and. Doctor Jordan B Peterson but who has gotten bored with Dave Rubin lately and I want to end this chunk of the episode with a quote on from that. I say this as someone who genuinely admires people like Sam Harris and even what conservatives like Ben Shapiro have to say in 2019. The Rubin report is only concerned with the same handful of repetitive topics. Criticism of social justice warriors, political correctness, and student coddling on university campuses is all well and good, but it has reached the point of nauseam with Dave Rubin. I would further argue that outside of niche Internet political circles, the vast majority of people in daily life. Hardly concerned with these subjects to begin with, after the 8th or 9th softball Question interview with the right leaning guest on dunking on blue haired ginger studies, majors working at Starbucks, and other blase conservative talking points, I eventually decided that listening to the Rubin report every week was hardly the best use of my time. And this dude who's a fan of his got blocked by Dave for like, arguing very politely with him on Twitter. Because again, Dave's little fragile, fragile little baby. Yeah, fragile, fragile man ego. So that's a little overview. Of day, Rube. Of drube rube. Yeah, well, it did. But now it's time to make fun of him. Now it is. It's time to it's time to look into his terrible book. Don't burn this book. Psychology. Like, because now all I want to do is burn his book. Oh, see, I don't care about his book that much to. But I also just like to burn things. Maybe I should preface that I I like. Yeah. I mean, I do enjoy a good fire. Yeah. And the book is like the cover is don't burn this book in big letters, subheading thinking for yourself in an age of unreason. And there's a big match on the book. And we're going to do the thing we always do where we we buy the book and then refund it as soon as we finish here. I'm surprised this faces it on the cover. Yeah, so am I. It has like a a jacket quote from Doctor Jordan B Peterson, which I guess must be one of the last things Doctor Jordan B Peterson did before his brain melted down. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, so his there's a fun quote in here from yeah. His publisher writes that in a time of madness, the book will give you the tools you need to think for yourself. Which is very funny for for Dave Rubin to say, considering think for yourself. He's never thought no, he just lets other people spew their thought vomit out on his show. And then he nods. Unless they're on the left, in which case literally disagrees shallowly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and a representative passage from the book. Before we get into it reads, I want you to walk into a bar and order a full bodied opinion. I want you to get absolutely wasted on facts until 3:00 AM and then when you're just about ready to pass out, I want you to get another glass of reality and chug it. See how funny that is? The comedy he's like reading his drinking hours and get drunk on knowledge. Wow. Wow. Yeah. And it's not even like the funny version of that. Like, you could do a funny version of that where it's like, I want people to be well informed, I want people to get wasted on effects. I want you to be ******** on the floor of your aunts apartment with knowledge. Yeah, exactly. Like, but Dave Rubin? Sure. I'm sure when he read that back he was like, **** yeah man. Yeah, I'm comedy. Yeah, I'm a genius. Yeah, it's, I don't know, like, it's he's bad. Anyway, let's look into his book, shall we? I actually want to start by reading. So I told you he's given a couple different versions of the story of like, why he finally left the left. And, you know, it started with his like, the the what seems to be the facts is that he had a bunch of disagreements with Jank about his support of Israel over Palestine and like, that led to other disagreements, and he was just kind of a pain in the *** to work with. But in his book, Rubin gives a very different story, and he claims that like his his break. With the left started in 2016, which we know what happened much earlier, but this makes it is kind of a better story. And it was during an interview with Larry Elder, who was a conservative talk radio, a black conservative talk radio guy and a very experienced talk radio guy. And Ruben used the phrase systemic racism, and elder challenged him and rallied off. You know, he did the thing that, like you can do if to people who aren't good at debating about something like this and like give off anecdotes about individual incidents of police brutality that were misreported. Or talk about black on black crime, which, you know, ignores the fact that white people commit the most crimes against white people and ignores the fact that, like, no, there's actually quite a bit of like, well, yes, there are misreported cases of police brutality. There's a lot of documentation about, like, and because Rubin doesn't do research because he's dumb or at least because he's a bad researcher or at least because he's dishonest. He had nothing like he had nothing to say against this or anything like that. Yeah. And so he claims that, like, this interview with Elder is what changed his. His his opinion, which is like, why it's a smart move for him to try to pull. I guess he did it a little bit late, but like he has to kind of rewrite that history because 2016 is such an inflection point politically. And because this way he can he can claim that, like, no, it was like a conservative black man who like pulled me a gay man away from the left. So I wanted to clarify something that I said up top about white guilt and queerness, because this is perfectly proves. My point is that when some. People that are already marginalized, like, if you're a white gay man, like, you could argue that you're already marginalized so you don't have to examine how your whiteness is still problematic. And so I'm sure, I'm sure there's an element of that as far as kind of using a black man to like, prove his point, like, like, like, like, like help his story along because Umm, like in his mind, like, I'm also, I'm also marginalized. Like, I'm not. I'm not like other white people, like, I understand. So I don't know if that makes sense. That's no kind of yeah, it does. And he definitely does this thing where, like, he one of the things he rails against the most in his show is identity politics. But he also focuses on like, well, I'm a gay man and I think that the left is crazy. Yeah, exactly. He uses it to only prove backwards points when really he's not. He's using it as a crutch to not examine how his whiteness is the main, like, a huge point of his privilege. Yes, yeah. And especially because he is able to. Pass as like presume it like he's he's not someone that would get ostracized and society by looking at him kind of thing. So I think there's also privilege in passing, and I think he really uses his sexuality as a as the worst kind of weapon against actual marginalized people, which is so upsetting and it's so upsetting for the gay community and like in general because. I don't know it just that, that kind of. That that brand of of whiteness is really upsetting to me. Yeah, it's it's very frustrating. All of it's very frustrating. And the way in which you kind of cashes in on look, a black man agrees with me about the left, like is is very gross. And he I know his book is very silly. So I'm going to read from kind of the end of the introduction here where he, he lists First off, the greatest contemporary thinkers in the world, which includes Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris. Ben Shapiro. Thomas Sowell. Dennis prager. Brett Weinstein, Ayaan Hersi Ali. Christina Hoff Sommers, who did a documentary about the men's rights movement. And, of course, Peter Thiel. Wow. Famed famed greatest intellectual in the world. Peter teal. Yeah. Wow. They all. I mean, I guess we know where some of that money's coming from, huh? Writing a parody? Yeah. He is like a parody. Everyone who tries to be an intellectual. On the far right is like a parody of a smart guy. Really? Yeah. They too came out of the political closet and helped me to see that tribalism is dead and that diversity of thought is far more important than diversity for its own sake. We need diversity of thought. We don't care. It doesn't matter. Like if we if everybody's white, as long as they think different things, we can have a like, *** **** it. Wow. Yeah, God. Yeah, that's like one step away from, like, I don't see color, but there's a different. There's like a different. That's what he's saying. Yeah, yeah, he he he brands his book as a 10 step guide for political authenticity and promises. In it you'll learn how to embrace your wake up call. It's the catalyst that brought you to these pages in the 1st place. Think freely or die. You'll get a much needed crash course and classically liberal principles that stand the test of time, yadda yadda yadda yadda and then freely stop, die, stop worrying about whether you're a Nazi. Oh my God, no, you're joking. That is not real. That is a *******. That is a joke that that isn't truly if I was writing a parody book about some right wing nut that wrote a book about Oh my God, stop worrying if you're. Yeah, yeah. Stop worrying about being a Nazi. Uh, because that's that's clearly like, if you keep getting called a Nazi, don't analyze whether or not you're doing Nazi ****. Just accept that. Like that it means nothing to be called a Nazi. That like, you basically saying that like sitter for a second? Yeah. Yeah, it's like, don't worry. If someone calls you a racist, you're fine. Yeah, like, don't worry, you're fine. Yeah, I, Dave Rubin has declared you fine. Yeah. Check your facts, not your. Please don't tell me this book did well. If this book did well, I I don't think truly signing off. Yeah, I think I I don't know. I think it did. It did. OK. I don't think it was like a giant national bestseller. Let's see here. You can probably pull that up pretty fast. Oh, it's new. It's like it was like universally 2020 panned. Yeah, I didn't realize it was 2020. Yeah, aggressive woke machine from outrage. Oh my God, I can't read the. Yeah, I know. It's it's incredibly frustrating. Yeah, I mean, it's not ******* great. It came out not that long ago. It's like number almost 5000 in a Barnes and Noble. It's like 40 or 50,000 in Amazon. Like, I don't think it's five out of five. Yeah. I mean, you have your friends all like it. It's not, it has not been, you know, the giant success that I think he hoped it would. They were hoping it would like, like, clearly this book is angled at like, converting a bunch of people to the right, and I don't think it did that. Yeah, stop hating America. The western straight white men. One of the motivations you'll have to stand up against the mob is that you'll love your country, the straight white men within it, and Western values in general. In fact, you'll know that America isn't perfect, nor can any nation ever be, but that she has granted more people, more freedoms than any other country in the history of the world. You'll also know that straight white men aren't evil. It's actually racist and sexist to believe so, and that Western values are rooted in individual rights of the cornerstone of free societies. And again, this is like he talks about how you have to have your facts straight and go into debate with facts, but of course he doesn't. Like, do that with this, where #1, uh, nobody in any sort of prominent position anywhere on the left is saying that straight white men are evil. They're saying that, like, the concept of whiteness is fundamentally toxic and we need to reorient our societies away from it. And also, the idea that Western values rooted in individual rights are the cornerstones of free society ignores a couple of things. You need to list a couple of those things in the in the 1770s, when the British conquered India and then starved between 30 and 40 million people to death in order to maximize the profits of the British East India. Company that was not rooted in individual rights, was it not super rooted in individual rights when, like, the European powers took over basically the entire Middle East and partitioned it up without asking any of the people who lived in the former Ottoman Empire where they wanted to live in the Sykes Picot Agreement and then forced a lot of them under dictators in order to maximize oil revenue that was not like, you know, super respectful of individual rights when the United States had Salvadori Yende assassinated or a lot of other leaders assassinated in Central America and then? Black Death squads through the schools of the America, killing hundreds of thousands of people and leading to mass rape campaigns, including the burning alive of numerous nuns. That was also not rooted in respect for individual rights, you might say. Western values have never been rooted in individual rights and have instead been rooted in plundering the rest of the world for the wealth of the West who get to have individual rights as long as they don't criticize the plundering of the world. Anyway. Fun David Rubin. I brought some facts, Dave. We can talk about those if you want. I'll go on your show. He'll never agree to any type of back and forth. He would just expose him, right? Like, yeah, OK, but I I will say I Umm, I'm skimming through these reviews on Amazon. Want to throw up or they are they just cloying? They're overwhelmingly positive. I'm sure he must have bought some of them. I refuse to believe this. Many idiots exist in the world, but there's this really long one. Oh no, that is basically a 5 star review. This book can change your life. It talks about how he used to be. He used to call himself a feminist and how feminist in his own life cancelled him because of arguments about the crime of rape. And this is boy oh boy, I wonder what those arguments were. God, well, I can continue if you're curious. Yeah please no, I wanna know what this guy I wanna, I wanna know this Dave Rubin fans hot take on rapes well OK, this is like the third or fourth of the fourth paragraph down of this essay review. It says the first line of it is I've never heard of David Rubin when I was a fan of The Young Turks and while I still called past tense, I called myself a feminist feminist in my own life, cancelled me for numerous reasons or attempted to in ( 1 of the arguments was over the crime of rape as in. Rape is a heinous crime that has best practices for prevention and resistance, just like preventing and resisting the crime of murder, where men number upon its primary victims the audacity that one would talk about preventing rape. As if the solution is not to simply tell men to rape less. We have laws against such things and these simple school marm, admonitions, surprise, don't work on rapists. This got me cancelled by more people that I can count, including one person. Well, I had the displeasure of seeing introduce Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins for one of their gatherings. By this time, I had taken a major dose of the red. I had a major dose of the red pill the red. I was seeking some type of comfort. Was I crazy? Could I be literally Hitler? Because I dare think outside the feminist orthodoxy? Something like this lockstep they can enter David Rubin. The literally hit enter David Rubin and how this man changed his life. Oh my God, people, for the most part aren't called. I I don't believe people have been calling him literally Hitler for his controversial stance on rape. I think they've been like, dude, what the ****? Like, why are you so adamant about arguing with everybody about rape and like, like, what is what is wrong with you, with you? What is wrong with you? Oh my God yeah. So apparently he dedicated the book to Ben Affleck. That Dave Rubin did. That's what Chad says on Amazon. It's that real that seems like it's got to be a joke. I have to look. I have to double check this. Yeah. Oh, it is. It is for Ben Affleck. I'm sure that's some sort of joke that we don't get because we don't watch this terrible show. I don't know. That's horrible. Well, no, it's not. **** Ben Affleck. Like I I don't think Ben Affleck believes anything other than having a gigantic hideous tattoo of a phoenix on his back. Which in fairness to Ben Affleck, is more of a commitment than Dave Rubin has ever made to anything controversial. Like course, like you got to give Affleck credit. It is not a cowardly decision to have the tattoo that he has, a commitment that is a common type of person. You are going to be anything else, let alone the tattoo itself. I will say I'm not an Affleck fan. The only thing that Affleck that I respect Affleck for is I think it was like in 2014 or something. But I I dislike Bill Maher a lot. I he's a ***** ** ****. I hate Bill Maher, yeah, but when he was on his show and Bill Maher was being his regular Islamophobic self, bill or Ben Affleck fought back against him on his show and he was like one of the only commentators on the stage that was like really upset or something. And yeah. Like, fought back pretty hard, so I really respected him for that reason. But as a regular person, I yeah, I will say of Ben Affleck, and this is actually my favorite thing about Ben Affleck is that he looks like a man who committed that despite his fame and despite being classically handsome most of the time, and despite like the the legions of adoring fans he's had throughout aspects of his career, he committed to never not being the kind of guy who would throw empty cans of steel reserve at his television at 4:00 in the morning. And that's what his back tattoo represents. Like Ben Affleck writing out, rising out of the ashes. Yeah. And then hooking a steel reserve can at the television because he's angry at it. That's Ben Affleck. And I will say I don't find him attractive in the slightest, but no. But clearly he must have to someone, right? He had that whole career, made him Batman, whatever. Like, apparently he is. He ticks some boxes for some people, but people wanna **** like, and that's fine. Like is this classic example of white? And just needing to be above a certain height to be considered attractive. In my opinion, this is just turned into a Ben Affleck Stan podcast. Stan. No, Stan. I mean, I can't think of a single movie he's been in where I actually cared about his, his, his, his appearance at all. But I I love the pictures of him, like, shirtless and out of shape, drunken staring out at things. And I will say, yeah, depression is something tragically beautiful about that. Yeah, I I I admire that greatly because I I have that energy myself a lot of the time. Just like, **** this ****. I'm going to drink a 40, and those are some of the best moments in someone else's trash can. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah, we're talking about Ben Affleck right now because Dave Rubin sucks so bad that we're all thinking like, Ben Affleck. There's a person that I don't despise to him. So it is. That is kind of weird. It is really interesting. You know what's better than Dave Rubin? 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I've done a pretty decent amount of drugs in my day, which is a sign that. Someone's either done no drugs or only done cocaine. Yeah, I've smoked pot, snorted coke, eating magic mushrooms. I've danced poorly on ecstasy and probably a couple of other things these days. I'm a red wine and indica guy, but I don't deny my past. Actually, I have some great memories of it. Yadda yadda yadda yadda. OK, so he calls magic mushrooms. Magic Mushrooms has never done shrooms. Yeah, yeah. OK, so he's talking. He's doing like a standard libertarian thing about how like it, we should just legalize this stuff, which is fine. Like it's the standard libertarian thing you've got to go through. Yadda yadda yadda. OK. The catch is that this libertarian inspired view falls apart when it starts to include schedule one substances such as crack and heroin, which are obviously very different because crack is just cocaine. Like David Crack is just a form of cocaine. You're just criminalizing the version that you think black people tend to do. Like he he has no idea about the history of crack and why it's called crack. And we're like, like, I don't know, man, like, what a ******* but no, these are the drugs that need that. The latest possible touch of government to to to criminalize them because freedom can't be a free for all, he writes. And we don't want to Breaking Bad episode happening next to well if methamphetamine were say manufactured by the government in the way that certain schedule one narcotics are in parts of Europe and were distributed to people who need like take it and and you know that were like a thing that they could do and get a get a consistent product and not have to deal with drug dealers then maybe there wouldn't be as much St crime and maybe because they're going into like. Permanent facilities where there's nurses and stuff, people could actually get healthcare and and hopefully eventually get off of meth, which is how they've treated heroin addiction. Very successfully in parts of Scandinavia. But like Dave again, the guy who talks about coming armed with facts doesn't he just talks about how he OK, so he talks about how bad and scary San Francisco is because of meth and opiates and that's his. That's why the government needs to criminalize those drugs is because San Francisco scary. And which is like, I ******* grew up in Dallas, dude. Like there's parts of Dallas. Like, like, San Francisco's got its sketchy, like neighborhoods, largely because there's just a lot of houseless people who the local city government. And like the NIMBY type. Rich folks don't want to help but, like, ******* hang out in Dallas or ******* Atlanta or like a whole. Like every city. Yeah, anyone that calls San Francisco scary has lived a very privileged life, to say the least. It's it's yeah, it's a mix of like, what they consider scary. Like, right? It's in in a lot of the Deep South. You deal with more meth shacks in San Francisco, you're more likely to find needles on the ground. But it's like, yeah, all of them are symptoms of the fact that our society has serious problems. It's not the fault of the actual individual substances, because we know that that's not how society has failed so many people. And yeah, and it's just not the fault of those people is the fault of the society at large. But then making it sound like they are the reasons why a city is scary, that is so problematic. Yeah, it's the whole, it's the whole, like, Dave's whole argument. Basically, is that like, I think the drugs that white people do should be legal, of course of or the at least that I see white people doing should be legal. Hmm. So yeah, this whole section is basically him explaining why like if you support things like gay marriage and and that kind of stuff, you you're you're a classical liberal like him. Although you should you should still support people who are caught with heroin or meth being put in prison rather than receiving treatment because San Francisco scary Dave Rubin. Is A is a consistent guy? Oh God. OK, here's his views on abortion. No, before this process started, I'd always been solidly pro-choice. Though in the last two years or so, I've begun to describe myself as begrudgingly pro-choice after you're learning more about the biology of gestation and the process of abortion, and seeing the left fetishize it in a way I'm not comfortable with. There are countless videos on YouTube of women celebrating their termination, while organizations such to Shout Your abortion encourages Twitter users to do the same with Carefree abandoned. OK, I I'm sorry. I I started vomiting when you said the word gestation. Yeah. God, yeah. It's it's him. It's him. #1 like, willfully misunderstanding, like the difference between people being like, hey, you shouldn't be ashamed if you've had an abortion. People need to be more open about that fact so that, like, they there's less stigma around it. Like you're not saying, like, yay, I love the fact that I got an abortion. It's fun. Let's go get another. Nobody, like, enjoys that process, but there's no shame in it. That's the whole point of that. Yeah, yeah. It's just the thing that you didn't normalizing, like, talking about it and being open about it, makes it less of a taboo and makes it less less of something that you feel shame around. It's not about being proud that you terminate a pregnancy. It's about normalizing, even seeking it out. And so it's not the shameful taboo. Like, you're not saying, like, yay, I love the fact that I got an abortion. It's fun. Let's go get another. Nobody, like, enjoys that process, but there's no shame in it. That's the whole point of that ****. Yeah. Yeah. It's just. Things like you're normalizing, like talking about it and being open about it, makes it less of a taboo and makes it less less of something that you feel shame around. It's not about being proud that you terminate a pregnancy. It's about normalizing, even seeking it out. And so it's not the shameful taboo topic. It's this thing that conservatives keep doing with like they do with sex education, too, where, like, if you're if you're in favor of like, kids getting better sex education, then you're in favor of sexualizing children. It's like, no, like you shouldn't even be telling. Like sex is good or bad, you should just be explaining very simply what it is, how it works, how their bodies work like it does. It should be. It should be like learning about the ******* Falklands invasion or whatever. It should be just another ******* class. Like this is your body, this is how it works, this is how this all like you were not. Nobody's sexualizing kids trying to teach them ****. Yeah, it should not be this thing we only talked about behind closed doors, like normalizing. Talking about it starts. It should start very young and it should start just as an educational thing. And conservatives make everything about be like, they just twist it. They twist it so strangely. Yeah. All right, this is a terrible book. Let's move down to the ******* Nazi, OK? I want to see some of these headings. Don't worry, you're not a Nazi. Oh, God. Don't worry. You're not a Nazi. That's what someone says here is a Nazi. Congratulations. I have fantastic news. You are not a Nazi. You may be wondering how I know this, considering we've probably never met, but trust me, I know what's vital going forward is that you know this too. You don't know David. He's, like, making you sound like if you're reading this book, you're a good person. You're smart enough to not be enough. You bought this book by me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, uh, OK. So he goes into how like, Nazis were actually socialists. People have totally rewritten history on the matter. No, they haven't. They just understand that it was like a branding sort of thing and that there was a left wing of the Nazi party that all got murdered in the night of long knives. That's what that was. David was the left wing of the Nazi Party all getting killed. But again, none of these people have ever. Oh yeah, he he twitters or he talks about how Hitler was on the left because he was an art loving vegetarian. And that he wooed voters away from Germany. Social Democrat and comments most of Hitler. Like the core of Hitler support came from the German Conservatives. I'm pretty sure he's called Hitler the monarchists and the right wing, but OK, like again, just completely. Completely. And, like, here's OK, so this is funny. So he talks about how Mussolini also has to have clearly come up from the been a left wing guy because he started out as a left wing journalist. Which is true. Mussolini was initially a socialist and a left winger like Dave Rubin. Then he became a fascist like Dave Rubin, you know, like glossed over that fact. Oh cool. He just talks about how real Nazis hated gays and Jews to the point of mass extermination of them. And which is true, Nazis killed a lot of gay people. Let's talk about Ernst Rome. You've heard of the brown shirts? Right, yes. Yeah, they were Hitler Street fight. His proud boys, these are guys who go out in the street like murder left wing activists. They were his like his enforcers, the like violent arm of the Nazi electoral movement. The head of the NSA. The head of the Brown shirts was an A flamboyantly and fairly openly gay man named Ernst Rohm, who was caught when Hitler decided he had to kill him because the Nazis had gained power and they wanted to purge. The left in Rome was an embarrassment because he was gay. They found him at like a giant **** at a castle. With a bunch of his like his bike boy toys and stuff and he like he like Rome. The Nazis had a ton of gay members early on. They killed them all after they got into power, which might be a warning to ******* Dave Rubin. Like when you truck with these people who hate you, they will use you while you're valuable for them to get in power and then they'll put you in a camp or just have you shoot yourself in a prison. David, actually read some history about that someone on Twitter. That Dave Rubin isn't a Nazi, it's just that he'd sit across from Himmler and say interesting a lot, which is actually a pretty accurate. Oh yeah, it's good stuff. I can't believe he's so. He's that idiotic to not realize that he. People will. He can only go so far with the stick, I feel like. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And it it does seem like he's kind of, he's running to the end of his grief now. He did get very rich. We'll see how long that lasts and how long he's able to, like, carry some of this **** for. But I don't think he's going to have a super long career after this because, like, especially if hopefully things go well in the election. I mean, we'll ****. Let's see. But even now, like with Trump in power, like, as always happens to these guys, he is rapidly lost influence because Dave Rubin was only ever valuable as a vehicle to, like, push these far right thinkers, just like all the other intellectual dark web guys. And now that it's become mainstream to just openly call for the executions of your political opponents and the installation of a dictatorship among the right, there's not a whole lot of need for classical liberals, you know? I don't know. We'll see. Maybe I'm. I hope not. I hope you're right. I mean, I trust. I trust your instincts. I hope this is the last time I'll ever have to talk about him. But yeah. God, what are you, garbage man? Yeah, he's trash. And I think we're done talking about him. I don't want to wait. Sorry. I insulted actual people that work as garbage men. That's not what I meant. Oh no, no. Garbage men are awesome. Yeah, no. One of the most important jobs in the entire all of civilization. Yeah, he is a man made of garbage. Yes, he is like a pile of of trash. He's not a garbage man. A garbage man would remove him to a dump and thus carry out an incredibly necessary. Role in modern civilization. An active service to help us all. Yeah. Thank you. Garbage men and women and nonbinary garbage people of all sorts. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to clarify. And before someone jumped on me, me saying that term. Yeah, nothing but love for garbage people here, but not people made of garbage. We're going to need to work on some of the language here, but that that can happen later. Shereen, you got any pluggable to plug? Plugable to plug well you can follow me along the interwebs if you want. I'm Shiro hero on Instagram SHEROHO and then on Twitter it's Shiro hero 666. Yeah. And I have a podcast called ethically ambiguous, and I'm writing a second poetry book. My first one is out there somewhere. But yeah, I am trying to work on more films. So if you want to see what I come up with, follow me along if you want. And if you don't, I get it, well, follow follow, Shereen. And what? I don't know. I was going to have a joke, but I don't. I don't have a joke. I don't have a joke to end this on. Make your own ******* jokes, people. What, do you think I owe you a joke right now just because you listen to my episode? I'm sorry. I'm getting abusive now, and that's not right. Jesus Christ. Think back to the image, Robert. Think back to the beach. The tattoo? Yeah. Just go back there. Yeah. ******* Ben Affleck, bent over, belly spilling out, giant Phoenix tattoo on his back and a 40th steel reserve in his hands. Just the saddest man who's ever lived. God, I love him, Robert. 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