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The cast called private parts unknown about love and sex around the world and as such I would do what I would describe as anti Ben Shapiro. Wing, as in I try to make sure people get wet. Sophia, I think that may be unfair and I I think you actually might have a lot to learn from Ben Shapiro. And so as a service to you, as a small brained woman, I'm sure I can as a service to you. Play this video of Ben Shapiro explaining the concept of *******. Oh no. Oh no. At least she trusts him. Gay. That's pretty exciting. And gay we trust is. We had Megan Rapinoe and then we had Cara Delvine. And I'm I may be screwing up a name, but frankly, I don't care because I really don't know very much who she is. Apparently she's some sort of model, and here she was modeling a bib slash straight jacket. I don't know what this top is supposed to be and it says peg the patriarchy. Ohh the courage. Ohh the stunning courage and bravery peg the patriarchy. Because ******* of course, is an obscure sexual practice in which women perform the the the more aggressive sexual act on men peg the patriarchy, right? Which? Yeah, and if she's picking the patriarchy by being a model? For the pleasure of men, generally speaking. OK, that's that's enough. I just needed the explanation of ******* as a woman performing the and then he stutters like 9 times. Aggressive part of sex, but also it's a rare act. Rare tells you a lot about because one of the things that tells you like. If you have never pleased a sexual partner with a vagina, you might believe that you cannot be penetrated and do so aggressively. But you can. Also, I don't know who understands less about. ******* the patriarchy Cara Delevingne or benching? Yeah. I mean, like, I I think that was ridiculous thing. Defectively feels good. That is why you would do it. And she's like, can we. It's like, let's blow the patriarchy. I'm like, yeah, I'm frustrated by because there's nothing bad about *******. And that's like the inherent implication of of that, like, *******. Wonderful. Unpleasant. No, it's lovely. But like, yeah. Anyway, I just Ben Shapiro's understanding of sex is always just a beautiful thing. And Sophia, what if I were to tell you that Benefin Shapiro wrote an entire book about sex? Be inventive. For benefit. Shapiro. Yeah. Benneth. Ben benefits been been off. I don't know. I don't know. What? Whatever. How would you feel if I told you that? Sophia? I would laugh very hard. And that is why I'm excited to be on the 7th. He did he he he published the book **** generation. I believe it was published in 2008. So back before you know anybody. You who? Ben Shapiro was in those about my **** generation, yeah. I almost got that one. So Sophia, almost. Ohh no. The Who? Yeah Ohh wait, is that nobody? Is that The Who I know about The Who? Tommy was the first album I ever bought. We finally found a ******* pop culture reference from a million billion years ago that you're into. Tommy is one of my favorite pieces of music. I mean, it's ******* awesome. The Who are awesome. It it was a it was quite an era in which you could have a rock opera that included a song about your Uncle Ernie molesting you. Which is a banger. Like a a very, very like morally confusing banger because fiddle about an incredible song. Butcher in the Rye of songs now. Sophia, sorry. It was 2013 that he wrote this book still before any reasonable person had ever heard of Ben Shapiro. It's called. Obviously, that's the year that orgasms were invented, correct? Because none had occurred until Ben Shapiro wrote this book. Not in the Shapiro family for certain. So it's called **** generation, how social liberalism is corrupting our future. The title is is it looks like look up this title for me because I'm trying to figure out what's actually going on with the title it appears to be. It appears to be the word **** in red with. I'm not sure if that's a **** ring or just a nose ring on the word ****. Like if that's the maybe a belly button ring. It's weird that it's it. There's like, just a ring on it. No, I think it is so vague. Yeah, because he's just against the concept of piercings. Yeah, I think it might be just that. Like, sure, he's like, what? Do **** stars have piercings? Yes. And it's it's very funny. 2013 concern, like I understand being that scared of piercings. Like, I don't know, 1961 years, yeah. Yeah, when a when a nose piercing meant that you were like 3 seconds away from executing an act of sexual terrorism. But not in 2013. So the cover also has one of those explicit warning, explicit lyrics sign, which I think is ironic. And then there's a quote from Ann Coulter on the front. Ben Shapiro's writing is smart, informative and incisive. He is wise behind his ears without losing the refreshing fearlessness of youth. Yes, when I think of Ben Shapiro, I think fearless. I'm sorry, did you say wise beyond his years? Wise beyond his? Years. He knows that that the act of penetration is fundamentally aggressive. He literally just found out women get wet last year. Yeah, well, I don't know that he found that out. He's a wonder kid because as as as I recall, his wife told him that be a vagina. Being wet was a sign of infection. She did. She said there's something wrong with these women. I, for example, you know, don't get wet in my life. Never does. And the only people I get wet with, other people outside of this marriage. God, that can I get an Amen every time anonymously ******* on Tinder. He talks about sex. He owns himself to a degree that I didn't realize was possible. Like I you repeatedly have give people so much ammunition to dunk on you and not even like it's incredible. It's breathtaking. Like it's like you would have to if you were not. If you didn't have the natural gifts Ben Shapiro had. You would have to create a like, you would have to work as a full time job to be owned that hard. Did he not get bullied as a kid? Because like, I mean I think he was home schooled. Ohh, but probably still yes. The world has bullied Ben Shapiro because, like, you know, I was bullied and you know exactly which **** is going to be ammunition. How do you? How do you live here? On God's green Internet or net or just typing **** like, I don't know how to please women? Like, yeah. Essential, credible. It's just crazy. It's just it's just amazing. So the IT opens with a dedication. This is written by Ben to all members of my generation striving to maintain their dignity, honor, virtue and innocence in a chaotic culture, and to their parents. I will remind you, because he talks about maintaining his innocence, that a little less than a decade before this when he was, I think, 17. Ben Shapiro wrote a column for a Conservative website arguing that there's no such thing as civilian casualties in Afghanistan and we shouldn't care how many women and children are bombs kill innocents. ******* is aggressive but but celebrating the the murder of civilians by 21st century weaponry is totally fine. That is Ben Shapiro's ethical stance. Who the **** is the intended audience because he just tried to pretend like it was for parents and kids? Well, I guess I I think I can help you here, because chapter one is titled A generation lost and it opens up with a quote from John Locke, who, as you may know, is a man who never ******. Absolutely did not ****. That John Locke quote is virtuous though for sure. Ohh Hobbs. Hobbs didn't do anything but ****. The only reason we have writings from Hobbs is that somebody was taking them down while he was in mid bone. He just dictated them all like David Milch writing Deadwood. Julie had to take a like a syphilis break, and that's when you would knock out some writing and then you would just go right back to ******* yeah, that's that's Locke could never. So the the lock quote is virtue is harder to be got the knowledge of the world and if lost in a young man is seldom recovered. John Locke, he's just being like, don't learn things, just stay innocent and hide. And that's kind of what that sounds like. The nightmare of thinking that you are, as a person, completely static and you cannot change. You should be static, changing, growing. These are all bad things. That is kind of the essence of conservatism. And that's why he never got hard. He's against growing. No, he is against growing. So *** **** would not get hard. No, no, no. You you celebrate that, Sophie. So here's here's how this book opens. This has been I am a member of a lost generation. We have lost our values. We have lost our faith, and we have lost ourselves as societal standards and traditional values have declined, and the crassest elements of sexual deviancy and *********** have taken over the public square. It is the youngest Americans who have paid the price. He's never in our country's history has a generation been so empowered, so wealthy, so privileged, and yet so empty. I want to look up the the levels of wealth in the millennials just just just to point out that he's comprehensively wrong about everything. Oh, do you mean the generation that objectively is doing way worse than their parents? Yeah, by like, by. So millennials are 80% as wealthy as their parents were at this age. And this is from Bloomberg. In almost every way measurable, millennials in the US at 40 are doing worse financially than the generations that came before them. It's it's it's incredible. We millennials own less than 5% of all US wealth, and like, 2% of that alone is Mark Zuckerberg. It's just it's hysterical how wrong he is because because he's he's he's an idiot. I'm not going to read the rest of the book in my Ben Shapiro voice because people will stop listening and they ought to. But I I just kind of felt the need to with that. It was like a tool and a toad had a gross baby. Yeah. Somehow sexless. I cannot. Yeah, if Gilbert Grape and Gilbert Godfrey had a baby and then that baby. I don't know. I don't even know, like, what could be sad enough to happen to a baby to make it Ben Shapiro. I guess that's the mystery of Ben Shapiro is how did someone this sad come about? And I have some information on that answer, but, but, but but I I cannot share it. So Ben goes on to say this book is not written from the perspective of a parent, a sociologist or a teacher, but of a peer. So there's the answer to your question, Sophia. So this is my generation, the **** generation, and for good or ill, we are all American. Future. So that's very funny. I would pay good ******* money for Ben Shapiro's **** history. So if anyone is a hacker and has that information allegedly, allegedly post it. I also just want to go on to note, because the point here is that Ben Shapiro is comprehensively wrong about everything. He's wrong about this being a generation of sexual deviancy. Millennials and Generation Z are having less casual sex than generation X or the baby boomers, according to a 2018. Study, actually. Less sex in general. Less sex, less alcohol consumption, more social media. Living for with parents for longer? Yeah, that came out in two. There was a study about that in 2014. Well, again, Ben Shapiro. If Ben Shapiro makes a claim, you just have to assume the opposite is true. Yep. So he goes on to blame how his wife tries to get him to find her ****. She's like, OK, if I say left, this ************ is gonna go right? Yeah. OK, so that's just how I'm gonna reverse engineer this **** and still still bone dry. Bone dry. No, the the last time she tried to get him to find her **** he wound up in Haifa. Actually. That is why he's such a rabid Zionist. It allows him to avoid he thinks it's the ********. My man winds up in the Dead Sea. You're in your DMS. I am in Haifa, looking for her ****. So he blames the deviancy of the current generation, which is he's talking about millennials. Here, 2013. Generation Z wasn't really much of a topic of discussion. He blames the deviancy on moral relativism, radical feminism and generational nihilism. So that's great. Instead of seeing your nerd face, you don't know what a what a stupid ******* he he says that instead of adopting stronger moral standards, our society has embraced the lure of personal fulfillment. In a world where all values are equal, where everything is simply a matter of choice, narcissism rules the day. Our culture has bred hollow young men obsessed with self gratification. Young women are told to act like sex objects and enjoy it. The revisionist historians have effectively labeled. Vicinity is a right that the founding fathers sought to protect, society told the poor in generation. That final moral authority rests inside each of us, and in our vanity, we listened. I can't. I I didn't mean to fade into the voice. It just how are you if you're acting like a sexual object and you're enjoying it? How are you acting that is? Completely a statement that makes zero sense. Yeah, it's it's it's really. It's really outstanding. Yeah, no one else is outstanding. I don't feel they're acting like you like *** *** and you're enjoying it. Yeah. Hey, guess what? I got news for you. Alright, well invited to this year's Pride parade. OK, that is all. Before we move into ads, I want to note one other thing Ben got wrong. Because you could argue we already pointed out this, that millennials and Generation Z have less sex with fewer partners than the generations before them, so they are objectively less ******. But you might argue, well, but Ben is also saying that **** is the problem. So maybe he maybe his argument is right and because of all the point we're consuming, we're ******* less. Which isn't the argument then, is making. He's comprehensively wrong. But I want to note that there I want to just read a quote from Vice about the the argument that like has is ****. Why millennials are ******* less. Unfortunately, there's one problem with this explanation. It's completely wrong. In a study published earlier this year in the archives of Sexual Behavior, researchers analyzed 1/4 century's worth of data from the General Social Survey, a nationally representative US survey conducted most years that inquires about American sex lives, among other things. Since 1989, participants have been asked two key questions, whether they have seen a pornographic movie in the last year and how often they were having sex during the same time period. This allowed researchers to see whether these two things were related. It turns out that Americans across the board. Not just millennials were having less sex today than they were in the past, however, millennials were doing it less than everyone else. And while this decline in sexual activity was linked to **** use, the results probably weren't what you were expecting. Specifically, rather than being linked to less sex, watching **** was actually linked to having more sex. In other words, though **** might seem like the logical target to blame when it comes to why millennials and everyone else are getting laid less oftens, it's not the right one. So if it's not **** then what else might be going on? Another common sense explanation is that it's due to changes in work life balance. Working more should translate to Alexa active sex life. However, the News Archive study also discounts this possibility, finding that unexpectedly working longer hours, like watching **** was linked to more sex. Instead, what we're seeing here has likely to do with changing marriage patterns. Studies have pretty consistently found that married people have to tend to have more sex than single people. However, given that millennials are waiting longer and longer to get married, the average age of a first marriage is now closer to 30. Perhaps that's part of the reason why they're less sexually active. So in other words. Millennials are ******* less because they're doing the thing that Ben Shapiro says they should be doing, which is waiting longer to have sex and having fewer sexual partners. Like, again, like, these people's understanding of of everything that's actually happening in society is is completely off. Like, it's the same way that people who are against abortion are also against birth control and you're like, OK, well, are you going to? Shoot all the babies. Like, I don't understand. Or the pregnant, the pregnant women you're killing, the pregnant women got it? Yeah, yeah. It's just there's a lot of reasons it's not just like people are waiting longer for marriage people. There's a number of reasons some people like, suspect that, like, antidepressant medication has an impact on it. But like, as a general rule, like, comprehensively, the argument that, like, this generation is somehow, like, more sexually depraved and active than before isn't the case. And the most you can say is that now people are talking a little bit more about some of the weird sex stuff that they've always done. But like. I have a theory too as to why I think that. Millennials are ******* less. It's because of, like, the rampant insecurity in, like, being alive because most people don't have a safety net. There's been a housing collapse. There's been a pandemic. I mean, there's been nothing since ****** ** **** since 911 was something that kids could remember, like, miserable and depressed. Yeah, yeah. So I feel like. Yeah, sorry. Like, if people don't **** as much because they're like, I don't. Yeah, have health care and I am housing insecure. But good news, Ben. The world that you've enthusiastically tried to build has made people so miserable that they're ******* less. Yeah, yeah, that's a pretty simple explanation. And my confirmation for that is like Vacation syndrome. You know, when you go on vacation, suddenly you're like, Oh my God, I'm like, so fun and interesting and I do cool **** and I **** all the time here. And then you're like, oh, what's different? Oh, is it that I am feel not shackled to the capitalist ******* like chains of my work week and the ways in which the place I live has failed me? Oh, oh, that must be it. Oh, OK, that's what makes you *****. Great. You know what makes me *****? Sophia's goods and services, specifically the products and services that support this podcast. Nothing else gets me hard, but what is it? Is it? Is it ExxonMobil today, Sophie? I certainly hope not. Just if if you want, if you want to get combination gun fentanyl store that that would get me pretty hard. Well, let's keep our fingers crossed speaking Roberts language there. I mean, I do prefer Dilaudid, but either way. Booked. Mint Mobile offers premium wireless starting at just 15 bucks a month. And now for the plot twist. Nope, there isn't one. Mint Mobile just has premium wireless from 15 bucks a month. There's no trapping you into a two year contract. You're opening the bill to find all these nuts fees. There's no luring you in with free subscriptions or streaming services that you'll forget to cancel and then be charged full price for none of that. For anyone who hates their phone Bill, Mint Mobile offers premium wireless for just $15.00 a month. 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And the shocking discovery I made where I faced the consequences of writing a book I thought would help people? Isn't that funny? It's not funny at all. It's depressing. Very depressing. Revisionist history is back with more. Listen to revisionist history on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I've never seen less enthusiasm for a great idea in my life. Ah, we're back and we're talking about Ben Shapiro's book on sex. So this first little bit ends with the paragraph. The **** generation now inhabits a world where empowered means sex with no strings attached. The old faith and traditional morality was too bourgeoisie, archaic, sexist, and closed minded for this brave new world. Our new God is tolerance of all behavior, our new credo. Live and let live. Imagine thinking like live and let live is bad. Yeah, is or. And it's like negative. And again, just he's comprehensively wrong about every single factual claim he makes. I'm like, The Beatles wrote a literal ******* jam about it years ago, a real danger of a song. You really think that? That **** is new? And also he's like, you know what sucks? Freedom. The exact freedom that I think. Wait a minute. I've talked myself into a corner. I guess I love freedom. But I also hate it. So the next chapter or not chapter section of the book starts with as children, members of the **** generation are presented with morally subversive sexual education programs that increasingly younger ages. 9 year olds are lectured about condom use, 12 year olds are pushed to make decisions about their sexual orientation, 15 year olds are expected to have said goodbye to virginity. And again, I guess it is it is probably true that kids are getting better sex at younger. Maybe that's part of why they're having less casual sex. Is, is, is they're getting more sex Ed and learning about STD's. I don't know. I doubt it has an impact on that. But whatever the case, it's certainly not making them **** more because as is stated, they're ******* less. I mean, and also, like, I just have to be honest that I do remember when I turned 12 that somebody did come up to me and put a gun to my head and asked me to choose my sexual orientation and I panicked, you know, so I said bye and, you know, now I'm obligated to. Like both men and women and you know, and just all all gender spectrums. Because I they put that gun to my head. They made me decide at 12. They pushed me. And and that's that's how it is for all of us who are bisexual. I was forced at gunpoint at age 12 to watch Moe's death in the Hitchhiker's Guide movie in and and violently told to to be aroused by it. And there's there's just you know it. It did incalculable damage. Yes, yes, yes. Getting wet to wild things, I would have to say as they're getting wet in the pool. Yeah, yeah. I that's traumatic because I literally was being, you know, tied to a chair and forced to watch that and masturbate. And I I as a result of this childhood trauma, I can't watch Pedro Pascal in a movie without needing to turn the air conditioning on. So specific. I am with you. I am in this literally. Who isn't? You don't even have to be by to be into Pedro Pascal, OK? So alright, so been here. OK, here's been dropping a fact. I'm interested in this. So Ohh actually OK. In college, drug use, alcohol use, and sexual experimentation are the norm. As one Harvard girl told me, we're jaded and it's fun. Fun to this girl meant trips to Amsterdam to smoke different types of marijuana. To others. Fun means binge drinking or random sex. This ******* nerd. I can't even just ******* know baby invited you to a ******* party does not mean you have to be such a sour ****** **** ***** everything. And also, let's let's be Frank here, if you've ever been to California, where Ben lives, Amsterdam Weed is weak. ****. It is. It just is. It's way worse than ******* Cal. I was impressed by Amsterdam Pot when I went there from Texas, but my God, the West anyway. Whatever. Ben is comprehensively wrong again. Alright, here's a Guardian article. They drink less, take far fewer drugs and have made teenage pregnancy and near anomaly generation Z1 of several terms used to describe the post. Millennial youth born after 1996 preferred juice bars to pub crawls, ranked quality family time ahead of sex and prioritize good grades before friendship. At least according to a report published by the British Pregnancy Advisory Service last week. And their studies in the US that find again, most, like millennials and Generation Z, are drinking less than previous generations. Using less illicit drugs. The exception is ******* painkillers, because, again, painkillers like numb emotional pain. So the ******* problem here, like Vince focusing on like they're having sex, they're smoking marijuana. No bin, they're addicted to ******* painkillers. But that's the thing. They're actually doing more and they're not doing it more because we've we've made it OK to be degenerate. They're doing it more because painkillers are widely available and make life less miserable. And people who have spent a lot of time donating money to you are the same ************* who were pushing those painkillers. The ******* decades. Ding Ding Ding. Yeah, it's it's cool. Yeah, OK. And so he he goes on to cite a study from details magazine and Random House. That's a survey of college students. 46% had had a one night stand, 43% had cheated on the study partner, 21% had tried to get someone drunk or high to get them in bed. 32% had slept with someone knowing they would never call again. ... dot .0. So this is fun. So he he cites this stuff and he says nothing about previous generations. So again, he's just talking about, like, how many millennials have, like, had one night stands as opposed to being like, how does this compare to previous generations? Is this happening more often or less often? And the reason he doesn't actually do that comparatively is because they're doing it less often. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So he's just citing statistics about a single generation completely separate from like, actually analyzing them with any historical context. Also, Brad, let people have a one night stand if they have one and they realize that that person isn't for them and that's it. That's better than ******* getting married to some woman you stalked when you were, you know, in the 50s until she ******* forcibly agreed to marry you because she just got tired and like then you're in a relationship with her forever and neither of you are in love and she puts her head in the oven. And your kids don't know what love is, so why don't you just let people have one night stands? How about that? Because Ben is an incredible journalist. He goes from citing this one study without any sort of context as as to how any of these things have changed over time. And then he provides us with a case study of of a young woman whose college experience he says is emblematic of of young women these days. That young woman isn't real. The the case study he cites is Charlotte Simmons, who is a character in a Tom Wolfe. Level. Ben says that her story quote carries enormous weight. To present my factual case study, the case is one of them, boy called Harry Potter. Can you stop laughing because he is part of this proof that millennials are into witchcraft? Witchcraft is not funny. OK, based on the case study of Harry Potter, it's incredible because also he's being like, this story carries weight because it's so true. And like, OK, so your case study of how millennial women are behaving is a book by baby boomer author Tom Wolfe in 2004. Hey, Ben. Couple of notes. What the **** is wrong with you? Some good ******* work. Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, he goes on. Wow. This goes on for like, a page. And 1/2 there are thousands of Charlotte Simmons is in the **** generation. When you're surrounded by encouragement, leading you to subjective morality, sexuality, and hedonism. When you can't retreat to a safe haven, it's simply easier to capitulate than to fight. Have been. Yeah. OK, so let's, let's let's let's see what else this book has in it. Capitulo. Wow. What his wife does, right? Tries to have sex with her. Yeah, I mean. Capitulates. A strong word. Just come on my stomach. Just ******* hmm. Just fine. That's what every woman loves, Ben one, just I'll read the Wall Street Journal. Just ******* do it. No, we have to take a two week break because of how how dry it was. We both got carpet burn. Chapter 2 is titled Fun with Bananas, and it opens with a quote by Doctor Laura Schlessinger. Ohhh, God no. Ohh. Why? Yeah, well, because he's Ben Shapiro. Here's Doctor Laura's not a lot of, how do you say actual sources in the conservative community. No. And again, you've seen his source. One of his major sources in chapter one is a fictional book about a fictional girl. It's it's rad. You're mad because you weren't invited to her birthday party. Ben was never invited to a birthday party. In public school systems across the country, they're indoctrinating kids to be sexual under the guise of protecting them. When you know that's not true, I think it is indoctrination for left wing agendas. Great. Here's how it opens. The chapter opens. This has been now. I was nine years old in 4th grade, says Katie, a cute 22 year old suburban girl from the northeast. She's a brilliant Harvard Law student and a relatively happy person. At her upper middle class elementary school, she had her first brush with sex Ed **** generation style. One day they told us they were going to teach us about family life. They didn't separate us or anything. They said that people could engage in oral, anal and regular sex, but didn't explain what the terms meant. I can't remember any moral judgments being made. They gave us booklets with line drawings of what happens. Puberty progresses. They also told us that sex can get you pregnant, that it can give you diseases. There was a lot of focus on HIV. They said the only way to be 100% safe was abstinence. Then they sent all the girls to the nurse, who told us that if we bled, we weren't dying and ended out maxipads in Tampa, that's. I I wouldn't. I'm I don't think that's perfectly reasonable. I actually think it's too much of a focus on abstinence. But like that's very conservative. That's extremely conservative sex set like. I mean, it's just a bunch of it as facts. Yeah. All of this is basically factual. What the issue is, again, I think an unreasonable focus on abstinence, but that's not technically incorrect. Yeah, that is like, I mean, it is the only way not to get pregnant. Yeah, I don't think that's a wise focus, but nothing there is inaccurate from studies that abstinence only education does not work. Yeah, but all the other things. They're just facts, two way conservative. That should be pretty inoffensive sex Ed, but obviously, and again, I like that. He focuses like they didn't separate the boys and the girls, which they did in my sex Ed, by the way, and my sex Ed was ******* useless anyway. Of course he had to mention she's cute. They're like she's she's good looking. And this is important because only good looking people agree with me, a total troll. I do love that. It's both like Ben Shapiro. Our generation is too obsessed with sex. Also Ben Shapiro, people need to know if I thought this source was hot. That's good journalism. Looking tool. It's incredible that he's supposedly is bringing us an example of ohh, she doesn't like how sexualized the education was, and then he immediately sexualized her being like she's cute as an actual journalist who's written for actual publications not owned by friends of my father. I want to note that student Katie doesn't like our most common piece of editorial advice or editorial question. You just like, but was this source hot? How would you rank them? Usually in just parentheses you write like a number, you know, just like between A1 and A10. Because people need to know. When I looked at your, you know, journalistic efforts, I always just redline everything. And I say hot or not in the margins. Yeah, as I talked to the mother of the dead boy, she's a solid seven. I can't help. The child regrettably was a three IP. Ohh God, so here's how this continues. Katie's parents were given the option to opt out of this explicit instruction for their nine year old, but they didn't. In fact, no one opted out in 4th grade and only one person opted out in the following years of sex Ed. According to Katie, she got sex Ed 9 times over every year from 4th to 12th grade. The classes were Coed all the way through. In 7th grade they were showing condoms. We made balloons out of them. They had a goodie box full of birth control implements condoms. Diaphragms, man. My school had none of that and we had a bunch of teen pregnancies in 7th grade. Someone said that their friends in 8th grade were already having sex, but that wasn't common. If I had to guess, I'd say that by the end of high school about 15% of the kids in the class were having sex and they were all the popular kids, but I was in the advanced class where no one was really doing anything. Sounds pretty low actually. Sounds like maybe all that sex Ed led to kids being less sexually active than, I don't know, your parents generation where Ben? Hello? But also, where's that 15% come from? She doesn't know. No, like it's just Katie. She's someone who ***** in her grade. She's someone Ben Shapiro likes. So no one who has ever had sex is willing to talk to her. She he also clearly made her up ******** college. Also, she does not exist. Yeah, she also. This is a fake person. Yeah, no wait, no. Even come up with any details that would make it seem like she was real. Ohh actually, never mind. This takes a turn. We may have been unfair to Katie, although I I still have questions. Katie believes that sex Ed is a good thing for kids to hear. The disease and pregnancy stuff was good because it scared people off. They realized there were consequences to sex. There should be education about it so that there are less half truths and complete lies floating around and people can make an informed decision because sooner or later they will do it. This is italicized by bin because I don't think she spoke in italics, and the more info they have, the better they are equipped to determine when they will do it. She also believes that parental inactivity makes taxpayer funded sex education more vital, citing her own parents as an example. My parents wouldn't have talked to me about this if I hadn't had sex in school by now. At our house. If they start something, it's like chill. I'm not 15 anymore. Katie isn't a virgin. This has been now and she isn't ashamed of it. She became sexually active at age 19 and has had. Three sexual partners. There's nothing wrong with premarital sex, she tells me. I got over that idea. I feel I can make rational decisions armed with what I learned in nine years of the same class. Repeating sex is appropriate when the person is mentally ready to have sex and it's not a result of the pressure to fit in and when she's mature enough to not have any regrets. Still, Katie doesn't want her parents to know more about her sexual history because they still think it's wrong, and I don't want to open that can of worms. For that reason, her name has been changed to protect her privacy. Katie is an above average girl and would be considered. This day and age is sexually well adjusted citizen. Her views on sex education and section general are shared by many of her peers. Premarital sex isn't seen as wrong as long as you're ready for it, and sex education is supposed to prepare you for it. With this kind of logic, it's not hard to see why kids are being sexualized at younger and younger ages. The younger the kids are when sex had begins, the more they know. At a younger age, the more they know, the more prepared they are. The more prepared they are, the more societal approval they were received when they tried to have sex, and societal approval means societal encouragement. She didn't have sex until she was 19. That's not early, Ben. It's it's a perfectly reasonable age to lose your virginity. Like, he's making the opposite point the entire time. Like, she's very reasonable. Everything she's saying is true and fine. It sounds like she's happy and didn't have sex before she was ready. Yeah. She seems she cried when she went to Harvard. She's brilliant. She's clearly doing lunch. And then at the very end, he's like. Tragically, yeah, Katie died. Like, what do you what? Yeah, she's already fine. The left turn. You're he's literally saying because of all the sex Ed Katie received, she waited until she was 19 and had sex responsibly and is a happy, successful young person. So we shouldn't give kids sex Ed because they'll **** younger like they might wind up like Katie in Harvard, she said I took sex, said for nine years. And now I am in Harvard, and I have made responsible and happy choices about my sex life. And he's like, I'm gonna write a book so people can know the horror of what you've gone through. Katie. Yeah, it's. It's ******* incredible. He goes on to say. The truth is that knowledge and information aren't cure alls. In fact, they can do serious damage to children. Wow. That is conservatism in a nutshell. Knowledge and information are dangerous for children. Don't give them that. Like, does he not even remember the more you know, like NBC dying. God bin. It's like not even controversial to think that knowing more things is good. First off, ******* tool bag. It's he's such a tool and I do it. Think we should apologize to Katie. The fact that he the way he was leading this was, I expected her to be like, my generation wound up ****** ** because of all this. Like, no, she's seems like a very healthy person. Katie's great, and she seems rad. Great to talk to Ben Shapiro because she's like, this loser needs to ******* talk to a woman. Yeah. So maybe this will help him be less miserable. Not Ann Coulter, you know, it's very funny. 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What supporters of the full frontal version of sex Ed don't understand is that knowledge is power and only when the person armed with the knowledge is capable of making a fully rational and informed decision wait, what? Knowledge is power only when the person armed with the knowledge is capable of making a fully rational and informed decision. What helps people make rational, informed decisions been is that knowledge. Children are not capable of such irrational decision. I guess you could say Katie didn't **** till she was 19. So what are you talking about then? Clearly children are capable of understanding. A lot, yeah. It it sounds like she waited until she was an adult and and ready. It's just everything Ben says is wrong. It's incredible. Kay Hymowitz, author of Ready or Not, what happens when we treat children as small adults, argues that anti culturalists people who believe that childhood sexuality, left on its own, free of social interference, will flourish and grow in healthy ways have overestimated the choosing power of children. Drained of all feeling but physical pleasure rationalized into philosophical person. How of children? Yeah, it's just a book from JK Rowling that teaches you that it's not OK to be you, it's not OK to be you. Knowledge is bad. Children can't be trusted with knowledge because they're not rational, and they can't be rational until they're informed, but don't inform them of things. It's. Awesome. It's just awesome in its wrongness. And I I wish you know, we I was kind of thinking this would be a one off and we would just get through this. Everything. It's so fascinatingly wrong, Sophia. And so many. It's too insane. There's no way. There's no way this is a one part or no, no. We have to continue this for today. I want to just give everyone an overview of the rest of this book. So Chapter 3 campus carnality. Loser. What a ******* loser. Yeah, college life for the **** generation is the social liberals dream making. Incredible. That's the opening sentence there. Invite Ben to a party so he can stop being such a ******* tool bag. Chapter 4, pop tarts. You're wondering what that is a reference to? Starts with official recipe for pop stardom. Start with a cute pubescent 10 to 12 year old girl. Again. Creepy time to include cute next step two to three years, virginal, wholesome, faux innocent play, acting, Disney Channel brand, highly recommended two years, ambiguous, semi pedophilic, converting 2 years sexual discovery, Dirty Dancing, X-rated lyrics, and or promiscuity for extra sales. Just add a smattering of bisexuality. Voila, you've transformed yourself into a platinum record artist. Keep it up for 20 years and you might even win a Madonna Award for profit driven sluttiness. Jesus Christ. Uh-huh. I like that adding bisexuality increases ohh market value because I have not found that that's worked out for me. Robert, did that increase your market value? Let me know. Yeah. No, no, I don't think it has chapter 5 where pimps and hoes run free. I'm sure this is going to be the one where he talks about hip hop. I was going to say this is ******* definitely throwing rocks at rap. Yeah. God, yeah. Chapter 6. Teeny boppers. OK. You're 7, then you already talk about the prepubescent girls. This that was pop stars, I think, Chapter 7, Abercrombie and *****. It opens with him yelling about Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl. I know. Chapter 8, TV versus virginity. Chapter 9, **** and pop. Feel like Joe versus the volcano. Yeah, I think it is exactly. It's actually just word for word. The script of that. Of that actually pretty good and kind of anti capitalist film. Yeah, chapter 10. The lotion picture industry. God dammit Ben. Chapter 11. Taking a stand oh God, oh, chapter 12 is a round table discussion with Michelle Malcolm, Rod Dreher, and Father John C McCloskey from Opus Day. I don't even. Oh, God, any of those words mean. Wow. Wow. Oh, Sophia, we're going to have fun with this in the months to come. I can tell you that right now. What a delicious turn of events. Speaking of coming, you know what Ben Shapiro has never done in his life? Please. A woman or anybody? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anybody? Really? Anybody? Sophia? This is all the time we have for today. You wanna, you wanna, you wanna, you know. You plugs with the plugs, with the plugs and the things. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at the Sophia SOFIYA and you can listen to my podcast about love and sex called private parts Unknown where it's hosted by me and Courtney Kosack and we definitely ****. And then the other podcast I co-host is with Miles Gray and it's called 420 day fiance where we get high and talk about 90 day fiance. It's real fun. Well, check that out. I am returning Ben Shapiro's book **** generation for offensive content. Until next time. Sophia, thank you for this and thank you all for listening. Until next time. Remember, don't ever **** and knowledge is deadly. I don't know what all your books burn. Your books. Jesus Christ. Hello, I'm Erica Kelly from the podcast Southern Fried True crime, and if you want to go from podcast fan to podcast host, do what I did and check out spreaker from iheart. I was working in accounting and hating it. Then after just 18 months of podcasting with Spreaker, I was able to quit my day job. Follow your podcasting dreams. Let's break your handle the hosting, creation, distribution, and monetization of your podcast. Go to spreaker.com. That's SP. RE aker.com. 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